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Old 05-26-2005, 08:42 AM
Wynton Wynton is offline
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Default Kxs on button, after a limper

Quick simple question here.

I have Kxs on button (K6-K2). One loose/passive guy limps ahead of me. Sb is very loose/passive, and will defend blinds with anything. BB appears relatively solid, not overly anything.

Is this a raise preflop?
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Kxs on button, after a limper

My cutoff would be K8S here.
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: Kxs on button, after a limper

ill raise K5s most of the time here. raising lower than that is pushing it imo, unless you know that the SB/EP are horrible postflop.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Kxs on button, after a limper

Wow, I wouldn't go any lower than KTs. There's a pretty decent chance you're going to be in a 4-handed pot with K-nothing, with a very tiny chance of getting heads-up. I don't think position gives you enough here.

Rory?
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: Kxs on button, after a limper

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ill raise K5s most of the time here. raising lower than that is pushing it imo, unless you know that the SB/EP are horrible postflop.

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If you don't raise lower than K5s, does this mean you're folding or limping?
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Kxs on button, after a limper

I would raise K7s 1 limper, fold any lower

2 limpers Id call K6s-K4s, not sure which id raise unless in game, probably Kts, call rest
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:16 PM
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Wow, I wouldn't go any lower than KTs.

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Folding K9s here seems absurdly tight.

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Old 05-26-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Kxs on button, after a limper

excuse me for being a pre-flop nazi but isnt the size of your crappy kicker only a bees dick in the total equation ?

if i know i likely have some equity on the limper with a crappy suited king and i figure i am good odds to win before a showdown then i like raise - i usually auto fold hands that contain a 2 or a 3 but everything else would be where i am not what i've got

if i have K9s then i'm raising because i have the best hand

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Old 05-26-2005, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Kxs on button, after a limper

Actually, I'd raise KTo but I'm pretty sure I've been folding K9s. My VPIP is about 23, if I remember correctly.
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:42 PM
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Actually, I'd raise KTo but I'm pretty sure I've been folding K9s.

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You just aren't correctly valuing K9s.

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