Why can't I fold...i know exactly what he has...!

climber · #1 12-01-2005, 01:53 AM

BB is 32/22/4 (prob one of you guys)
UTG is 25/2/0 over only 50 hands
CO is 82/10/1

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

MrWookie47 · #2 12-01-2005, 02:07 AM

I'd seriously consider folding preflop, especially in a 1/3 blind structure.

jba · #3 12-01-2005, 02:18 AM

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I would have folded against that raiser here.

what was the flop plan? did you consider leading?

#4 12-01-2005, 02:29 AM

I wouldn't fold PF here because of the small sample size on UTG. But I would play it very cautiously. He may have been getting nothing but trash for 50 hands, and you're missing out by folding.

I'd let the maniac lead and then bet-call the river. Or maybe check-raise if you're sure he'd bet it. After UTG folds you can feel a little better.

#5 12-01-2005, 02:31 AM

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BB is 32/22/4 (prob one of you guys)

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Not me yet, but I'm working on it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

kidcolin · #6 12-01-2005, 02:38 AM

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I'd seriously consider folding preflop, especially in a 1/3 blind structure.

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f*ck stats. Play poker.

yellowjack · #7 12-01-2005, 02:40 AM

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I'd seriously consider folding preflop, especially in a 1/3 blind structure.

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f*ck stats. Play poker.

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lol, idiot

Edit: It's like you're saying "i don't care that he only raises once every 10 orbits, i have ACE-JACK!"

#8 12-01-2005, 02:58 AM

32/22/4 is NOT one of us guys.

Preflop coldcall: very bad. If you don't feel comfortable reraising it (and against a UTG raise from a guy who has raised exactly once in 50 hands, I wouldn't), you should toss it.

Flop: WTF?? This is where you should be getting bets in, if you think your hand is worth anything. Yeah, it's sexy to go for the big bets with your top pair, but you have no idea where you stand, especially with a tight PFR.

kidcolin · #9 12-01-2005, 02:59 AM

"roflol"

Maybe it's like I'm saying he's got 50 hands on him and no other reads, so don't cream your jeans about the stats. 10 just means 10%, not the top 10%. You'll find lots of guys with low PFR stats making funny raises. I can dig up some hands if you want.

edit: the idiot remark was classy, btw

Aaron W. · #10 12-01-2005, 03:17 AM

If you check-raise the turn, there's no way you should be calling it down when he 3-bets you.