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Overpairs on paired boards
HAND #1: UTG+1 is loose and a bit nutty.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls. Flop: (9.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (9.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls. River: (12.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls. Final Pot: 14.16 BB ----------------------------------- HAND #2: MP2 is LAG (44/16) preflop. No notes on postflop play. Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>. Flop: (5.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls. Turn: (3.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls. River: (5.66 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 9.66 BB |
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards
Hand 1 - Against a guy who's "loose and a bit nutty", I guess this is okay. Against anyone else, a check-3bet is tough to get around.
Hand 2 - Looks fine. |
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards
I would seriously consider three-betting your AA in hand #2. It is unlikely that he has trips, a boat, or 79s (the possible straight makes me a little more nervous, but I still consider raising here). It also looks like he hit the T or has some PP and thinks you will call him down with A high. Other times (this is not necessarily the case here, since he cold-called PF), players cannot read boards: they hold something like 6T and think that they have two pair (mental process: "look my hand improved! I raise!!").
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards
Hand 2: 3-bet the river
Hand 1: I think calling down is fine with Aces up. Might raise the turn, but it costs you the same as calling down, you hand is fairly safe given you ahve 2 apir (you only fear trips, a gutshot or the improbabale OESD if ahead), deprives you of 2 outs to spike an Ace if you raise and old to a 3-bet (which will happen about 5% of the time), and, depending on your opponent, you may not be able to correctly assess what to do if 3-bet. |
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards
I'm confused as to your hand 1 analysis. Are you you suggesting a course of action if he had AA?
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards
Hand 1: You describe UTG as loose and a bit nutty, and yet you go into check-call mode after his flop three-bet?
No good, sir. Cap the flop. Hand 2 looks standard. Will |
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards (results)
It's interesting that the majority seems to be indicating that I wasn't aggressive enough. When I posted some similar hands in the HUSH forum, I made a river raise and was told it was too aggressive. (every hand is unique though...)
Hand 1: UTG+1 wins with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hand 2: I gave serious though to 3-betting the river, but declined it. MP2 wins with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. |
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards
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I would seriously consider three-betting your AA in hand #2. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know what they are teaching you are princeton, but if I held the trips here, I would have played them exactly like MP2... let him bluff his AK all the way or make him pay me with a big PP. It likely offers the best payoff. My guess would be that I was trapped. Besides, if he 3-bets and is capped, I think that he has to fold. |
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards
Trips will often raise the turn here b/c AK is so likely to call them down anyways and AK is not guaranteed to bet the river. I, personally, raise the turn here HU if I think a player will call me down with A high, unless I have specific notes.
Also, let's not forget about pocket pairs below AA. I am not contending that three betting is definitely the way to go, however, I think this line should be considered. Post-flop play notes would help. |
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Re: Overpairs on paired boards
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[ QUOTE ] I would seriously consider three-betting your AA in hand #2. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know what they are teaching you are princeton [/ QUOTE ] Mostly beer games...and syntax [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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