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Old 12-08-2005, 12:44 AM
snappo snappo is offline
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Default Bottom pair and flush draw facing min-raise OOP on flop (2/4 6-max)

The only read I have is that UTG is loose and aggressive. Note that UTG has <50 BB . Thanks.

6-handed
Relevant stacks:

SB ($79.22)
Hero ($468.10)
UTG ($173.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($12) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $20</font>, SB folds, Hero ?
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:51 AM
Leptyne Leptyne is offline
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Default Re: Bottom pair and flush draw facing min-raise OOP on flop (2/4 6-max)

With the only big stack playing twoo short stacks this is not a place where I want to put in any $$. Your chasing, which is not good, and if you hit you may not be good. with a big stack I want to play with position and pick on the weakest player, raise to isolate. Besides being OOP you don't know if villain will pay you off if you hit the flush. Use your big stack and position to dominate.
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Bottom pair and flush draw facing min-raise OOP on flop (2/4 6-max

So what would you do? I can't fold there getting 4:1 on a call. Are you saying you would check/fold the flop?
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:15 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: Bottom pair and flush draw facing min-raise OOP on flop (2/4 6-max

Pot odds are too good to fold, so that's out...

Stack sizes are odd for a 3-bet IMO.

I would typically call, here, and lead if I improve.
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: Bottom pair and flush draw facing min-raise OOP on flop (2/4 6-max)

call
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:36 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: Bottom pair and flush draw facing min-raise OOP on flop (2/4 6-max

This is not tournament poker.

Stacks are so short, hero can rebuy to cover even if he doubles them up.

Edit: Re-read initial post again... table is 6 handed. And hero only has a little bit over a full buy in.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:38 AM
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OK I did call. Turn is A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] . Bet or check?

I don't think I like leading the turn because a better hand that would call, will go allin and force me to fold.

I checked. He bets $35 (pot was $50 going into the turn). He has around $120 left.


FWIW I called the turn bet (?). River was Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I checked planning on folding to a bet.

Maybe a c/r allin on the turn would be the better play?
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