So I overplay QQ a previous hand, and then this

brazilio · #1 11-17-2005, 03:34 PM

I think there's one fish. The rest are 2+2ers. Villain is a 2+2er who I have a gajillion hands mined on from 3/6. I haven't seen anything in particular, his name's Stusomething on the forums I think. I'm dealing with overaggression like usual. In retrospect the river looks like dogshit and it's probably an easy check/fold, I don't think he's going to call with AK/AQ. Anybody hate anything other than the river? I was folding to a turn raise.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (8.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB

aba20 · #2 11-17-2005, 03:38 PM

I don't like the turn donk. If he is a smart tough player, who you have played many hands with you are going to get yourself into trouble by donking weak hands like this on the turn. He will catch on very quickly and start raiseing for a free showdown with his AK/AQ type hands.

#3 11-17-2005, 03:46 PM

If you can't fold to a 3-bet on the flop then perhaps check-raising is not the best line. What are other good options here?

brazilio · #4 11-17-2005, 03:48 PM

Call flop donk turn is pretty much my other standard option.

TStoneMBD · #5 11-17-2005, 03:49 PM

you do realize you have a gutshot on the turn right?

krishanleong · #6 11-17-2005, 03:49 PM

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Call flop donk turn is pretty much my other standard option.

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call flop cr turn should be in your arsenal.

Krishan

brazilio · #7 11-17-2005, 03:49 PM

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you do realize you have a gutshot on the turn right?

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err, yes. Ignore that fold turn crap.

#8 11-17-2005, 03:57 PM

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call flop cr turn should be in your arsenal.

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Different. Check-fold the river if he calls?

Wynton · #9 11-17-2005, 04:10 PM

Sometimes I find myself taking the same line on the flop, i.e., c/r and then call the 3-bet, followed by c/f on the turn without improvement.

But I'm not sure that either of us should be seeing the turn, at least not without a read that the villain is fairly aggressive post-flop.

Alobar · #10 11-17-2005, 04:13 PM

your table selection sucks

Given that you picked up a gutshot on the turn, I like c/c the turn. If he does just have AKQ and takes the free card, that kinda sucks, but the big majority of the time the "3 bet with overs" guy, either bets the turn or still calls a river bet after he checks behind the turn. So you get a bet out of him either way, when you win, and lose less when you actually lose. if you c/c turn I think the real decision is what to do on the river, and thats all read dependant, I like a fold tho unless hes super aggresive. Cuz lets not forget, he can actually have a hand here too