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#1
10-30-2005, 02:04 AM
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($11) bottom 2 pair facing check-raise
Five see the flop. I planned to check-raise to drive out draws. Logical? But was beaten to the punch by the small blind. My action now?
Total number of players : 10 SB( $420 ) HERO ( $800 ) UTG ( $800 ) UTG+1 ( $755 ) UTG+2 ( $785 ) MP1 ( $1070 ) MP2 ( $830 ) MP3 ( $1100 ) CO ( $775 ) BTN ( $665 ) Blinds(10/15) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to HERO [ T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] UTG calls [15]. UTG+1 folds. UTG+2 calls [15]. 4 folds BTN [15]. SB calls [5]. HERO checks. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] (pot 75) SB checks. HERO checks. UTG checks. UTG+2 bets [75]. BTN calls [75]. SB is all-In. (raise to 405) HERO ????? 
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#2
10-30-2005, 03:03 AM
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Re: ($11) bottom 2 pair facing check-raise
Are you really considering folding this?
I call very quickly and expect to see QJ
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#3
10-30-2005, 09:34 AM
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Re: ($11) bottom 2 pair facing check-raise
What kind of read did you have on SB ?
How did he get so short stacked this early ? If he is a donk then I expect either QJ or KJ. If he has a set of 8's and pushed fearing a straight draw then oops. But, it isn't as likely since you have an 8. I would have expected a raise pre flop from the SB if he had 10's or Q's with that many limpers ahead of him. He may have QT which would suck but, I'm callng this here.
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#4
10-30-2005, 02:51 PM
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Re: ($11) bottom 2 pair facing check-raise
SB lost his chips by bluffing on multiple streets.
Like you, I thought that 88 was unlikely due to there being only one combination possible. I extended this reasoning to opponent possibly having TT. And I thought if someone limped with QQ and caught a set, then bully for them. Also, I widened the SB's range for check-raising due to his shallow stack. I see people responding saying call. I actually pushed, figuring I wanted to get rid of any other straight draws or two pair draws. Hmm. Result in white: <font color="white"> SB has top two pair. BTN has straight. I am drawing to 2 outs. </font>
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#5
10-30-2005, 02:53 PM
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Re: ($11) bottom 2 pair facing check-raise
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Are you really considering folding this? I call very quickly and expect to see QJ [/ QUOTE ]easy fold for me.
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#6
10-30-2005, 02:55 PM
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Re: ($11) bottom 2 pair facing check-raise
I lead out and bet with a board like this.
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#7
10-30-2005, 03:11 PM
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Re: ($11) bottom 2 pair facing check-raise
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I lead out and bet with a board like this. [/ QUOTE ]i agree but that doesn't help him in anyway in this hand, btn smooth calls and shortie still pushes.
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