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Old 11-19-2004, 05:30 PM
AceCraig AceCraig is offline
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Default Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

Well , i am not winning anymore. They say you should be aggresive and I am.
I raise with good cards, miss the flop and get bluffed out or lose to J4 pair of 4's.
People are hitting alot of gutshots on me.
Should I give up the game?
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:52 PM
J.R. J.R. is offline
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

"Should I give up the game?"

I dunno, but I would drop down to a lower limit if I were you. Post some hands.
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Old 11-19-2004, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

If you're going to continue doing what you're doing, yeah, you should probably quit.

When you initially said you were having a problem, people suggested you post some trouble hands. You haven't, and now you're stuck worse than before. Post some hands, have people take a look at your PT stats for something obvious, but don't try to tough it out if you've dropped 300 BB. That's normally an indicator that you can't beat the game the way you're playing.
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Old 11-19-2004, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

you see the bazillion of posts around here- from people trying to improve their game? you think anyone could give you a specific and correct diagnostic based on the info. you are disclosing in this thread. it isnt that easy, bud. you have to look deeper than that. i would suggest dropping down a level or so, and get more involved in seeking out answers.
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Old 11-19-2004, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

Drop to $2-$4 6 Max and learn there. That way you don't drop that much cash while learning.

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Old 11-19-2004, 08:26 PM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

I had a 350BB downswing in that game over a period of probably about 15k hands. It was yucky. You probably have some major leaks, I know I did and still do. But it is possible to be a winning player and still have those kind of swings.
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Old 11-20-2004, 05:11 AM
lefty rosen lefty rosen is offline
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

Try and play the stars 2/4 game if you can consistently beat that you are ready for party 5/10. Other wise I would suggest you avoid the game. Don't bother with 1/2 that is crack land and is just an area to make bread but nothing else.....
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Old 11-20-2004, 09:03 AM
AceCraig AceCraig is offline
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

Here are my Stats for last 10K
Total hands 10,721
-1.65BB/100

Vpip 27.06%
VpipSB 38.60%
PFR 7.55%
SFALL 36.29
SFNB 24.88
limp/call reraise PF 0.04%
cold call PF 0.54%
FSB to steal 83.60%
FBB to steal 54.20%
Att steal 10.67%
w$wsf 32.61%
wsd 31.77%
w$sd 54.29%

agression

PF 0.33
flop 2.03
turn 1.88
river 2.15

fold to river bet 41.07%

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Old 11-20-2004, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

I think if you are struggling you need to tighten up some 27% is playable by some of the best players here but it is way too hiogh if you are having problems. Lose 5% or so!

SB completions too high as well.

PFR% - way too low especially with al the hands you are playing - add 4% minimum

CCPF is 100 times too high [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Steal Attempts are 15% too low; 25% is not unreasonable (and 30% is just about OK as well)

W$WSF is too low but as you are playing a lot of crap and not raising with them either, that is to be expected.

Flop aggression in particular looks to be too low and ...

41% fold to river bet - ouch!

There seem to be serious problems here. I suggest you follow the advice of others; post hands and drop down while you adjust to a better style of play.

Good luck

T
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Old 11-20-2004, 10:16 AM
AceCraig AceCraig is offline
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Default Re: Losing at 5/10 6 max-- 300 Big Bets

what is normal for
CCPF%
and fold to a river bet %?
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