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Old 12-21-2005, 02:50 PM
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Default red hot lag donk

Villain is something like 55/45/3 and has been winning just about every pot.

PR 5/10 5 Handed

Hero is BTN with T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Preflop:
UTG folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, CO calls

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
CO bets, Hero has no plan
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: red hot lag donk

call and fold turn without T/Q. he may be a lag but i'm not committing to show this down.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:56 PM
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Ugly. Umm I think you have a couple options

1. fold, smallish pot, 3 overs and we're lead into.
2. raise- maybe get a free card, we have some outs although we dont know how good they are
3. call and fold turn UI.

Out of all of them I think folding is best but a raise might be OK if we think villian would lead w/ 88 and fold to a raise. if we're 3bet we have to call and fold the turn UI. We're getting 8:1 on the flop call and if villian doens't have a set,straight or K we have 6 outs...but I think that's pushing it.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: red hot lag donk

I chose option 1 because I'm in that I'm-running-so-bad-I-don't-see-how-I-can-ever-win place. Usually if I make a play purely because of how I am running, I recognize if it's a mistake right away. But here, I don't think I would have a plan even if I was running well. I don't think raising is good, because he will 3-bet often, and a 3-bet doesn't really define his hand any more than the donkbet did. I'm leaning toward calling now because he will most likely pay off if I hit.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: red hot lag donk

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call and fold turn without T/Q. he may be a lag but i'm not committing to show this down.

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should read T or a K.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:29 PM
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I knew what you meant. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: red hot lag donk

7.5:1 with ~5 outs. The T might not be good, so it's worth maybe 1 out, plus gutshot. This doesn't seem that close to me. Just fold and move on.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:18 PM
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just let him have it. you aren't getting the odds you need to chase.
if he's bluffing, that's great. every other time you 3bet him and get a flop like this you will bleed him dry.
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