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12-04-2005, 11:58 AM
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Re: 200/400 bellagio vs liz lieu
I've never felt betting this rivers was worth it. I get raised too much because my bet looks like I've got nothing, but I constantly worry I'm getting raised by nothing so I'm tempted to call. Someone here suggests a 3 bet, but I think that is crazy. They aren't going to fold. Nobody ever folds.
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#2
12-04-2005, 04:13 PM
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Re: 200/400 bellagio vs liz lieu
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I've never felt betting this rivers was worth it. I get raised too much because my bet looks like I've got nothing, but I constantly worry I'm getting raised by nothing so I'm tempted to call. Someone here suggests a 3 bet, but I think that is crazy. They aren't going to fold. Nobody ever folds. [/ QUOTE ] You Sucker and Brad have me convinced. A check call might be a little better than bet call here. I think it depends on how often she is gonna follow through on the turn without a pair, whether or not we have to pay off a raise, how often she is gonna value raise us with thin hands, and how often she bets the river with air when we check. Taking everything into consideration I think you guys are right. Also no way I'm gonna put 800 in on the river. I dont think she has 55-1010 enough and even when she does she might not lay down.
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#3
12-04-2005, 12:10 PM
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Re: 200/400 bellagio vs liz lieu
definitely call the raise. expect to see 88 or something as well as AK and AQ and worse sometimes, and obviously AJ, etc. ive played with her a handful of times and you play way better and think about the game way more. btw she's calling you down 100% of the time there if she has anything better than A high, this was like that thing we were talking about, these people always call down, they dont laydown hands like you and other 2+2 guys do.
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#5
12-04-2005, 12:58 PM
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Re: 200/400 bellagio vs liz lieu
Yes, I can confirm that she was one of the few people who inspired the term Floater ("trademark MS aka Nomar)
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#6
12-04-2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: 200/400 bellagio vs liz lieu
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Yes, I can confirm that she was one of the few people who inspired the term Floater ("trademark MS aka Nomar) [/ QUOTE ] I think that makes it a call, unless a weak-seeming raise from a floater is usually a hand. ~D
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#7
12-04-2005, 05:43 PM
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Re: 200/400 bellagio vs liz lieu
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Yes, I can confirm that she was one of the few people who inspired the term Floater ("trademark MS aka Nomar) [/ QUOTE ] I never thought of her as a floater. She is friends with all of the floaters, but when I played with her, she tended to be doing a lot raising, not floating. I consider her a very good LAG.
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#9
12-04-2005, 01:57 PM
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Re: 200/400 bellagio vs liz lieu
Looks good to me. Its kinda close but since her three betting range is fairly big, and there are ton of draws that you could have missed I think you need to bet. If you feel like you cant fold to a raise, and she is going to be poping you with stuff like 99 for value then it probably becomes a tougher decision. Given the board and the action I really dont think you can fold the river, especailly if you feel like you have a read.
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#10
12-04-2005, 02:12 PM
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Re: 200/400 bellagio vs liz lieu
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Looks good to me. Its kinda close but since her three betting range is fairly big, and there are ton of draws that you could have missed I think you need to bet. If you feel like you cant fold to a raise, and she is going to be poping you with stuff like 99 for value then it probably becomes a tougher decision. Given the board and the action I really dont think you can fold the river, especailly if you feel like you have a read. [/ QUOTE ] Do we really think her 3 betting range is that big here? We raised utg+1. I think the preflop play stinks by the way. Just muck the 4s.
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