Alright Irie, this one is really an interesting bubble hand - Page 4

djj6835 · #31 08-18-2005, 12:25 AM

Under the new circumstances I would probably push any two. This would be about as borderline as it gets though in terms of hoping to have any FE.

edit: as a sidenote I would probably push any two here as long as BB has more than 600 chips after posting. After that I think any two will call seing as the BB will be getting about 2.5:1 on his money.

bluefeet · #32 08-18-2005, 12:29 AM

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Under the new circumstances I would probably push any two.

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agreed. i'm folding a bunch if i'm BB - pushing into you next hand given the chance. you just have to hope the other two don't have ANYTHING that can see a weak 'minraise'.

djj6835 · #33 08-18-2005, 12:35 AM

in this particular situation I would actually be more concerned about the big stack calling from the SB than the shorter stack calling from the BB. Does anyone else agree with that?

johnnybeef · #34 08-18-2005, 12:38 AM

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in this particular situation I would actually be more concerned about the big stack calling from the SB than the shorter stack calling from the BB. Does anyone else agree with that?

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it definately crossed my mind, but he was smart, and calling would be foolish unless he had a hand.

Shillx · #35 08-18-2005, 12:51 AM

You are a fool if you don't think he will call any 2 getting 1440:440 (more then 3:1). It is + 1.2% for him to call with 32o if you are pushing randomly! Folding (him) in this spot is beyond bad. Terrible.

Brad

adanthar · #36 08-18-2005, 01:44 AM

I read the first post and wondered why this had 30-odd replies, then skimmed down and saw the correction [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

FWIW I still think you fold. He may fold exactly 32o, 42o and whatever other hands add up to < 9, but that's not really a big positive for you. Everything else pretty much still has to call, certainly any Broadway, so I don't see that it makes enough difference.

PS: the chip counts as given do add up to 8K so he may have 920 *before* posting, in which case this thread sucks.

johnnybeef · #37 08-18-2005, 01:49 AM

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PS: the chip counts as given do add up to 8K so he may have 920 *before* posting, in which case this thread sucks.

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yeah, i closed the table and i have played ~35 sngs under that sn today, so i didnt feel like going through them all to find it. what i remembered was that he had 940 after posting, i had 820 utg, and the other two stacks were relatively big. as such, i made the other two stacks up based on approximations that add up to 8000.