Playing premium hands in loose passive games

I read in HPFAP that in loose passive games where poor players see the flop no matter what, it is better not to raise preflop with hands like AA or KK because by doing so we make the pot larger and thus make it correct for players to call bets on the flop with 4 out or 5 out hands.

it also says that it is correct not to bet on the flop because people will call anyway and you make it correct for them to call on the turn with the same 4 out or 5 out hands.

i find that whenever i hold AA in a 5 way loose pot and raise, i always get beaten either on the turn or the river. so is it then better to wait till the turn to see if my advantage is still present?

i find that these hands are the biggest leaks for me, hands like AA, KK, QQ, JJ that are so difficult to get away from and that always get beaten on the river, i am thinking i should fold these preflop for the time being.

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Brilliant. Although really, AA makes sets about 3% more often than KK-TT, so you should PROBABLY keep on playing AA, but definitely dump any other pocket pairs.

really? why does AA make sets more often? doesn't make sense

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HPFAP is old, read Miller's book instead

"i find that these hands are the biggest leaks for me, hands like AA, KK, QQ, JJ that are so difficult to get away from and that always get beaten on the river , i am thinking i should fold these preflop for the time being."
That is not correct

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really? why does AA make sets more often? doesn't make sense

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Playing poker online doesn't make sense either, but people still do it. Basically the premise is that the way the cards are shuffled, they're more prone to pushing aces towards the top of the deck. If you go to any website that allows observer chat, there are a number of hard workers trying to educate everybody about this. Obviously, some people just don't understand logic.

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I love you brazilio

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really? why does AA make sets more often? doesn't make sense

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Playing poker online doesn't make sense either, but people still do it. Basically the premise is that the way the cards are shuffled, they're more prone to pushing aces towards the top of the deck. If you go to any website that allows observer chat, there are a number of hard workers trying to educate everybody about this. Obviously, some people just don't understand logic.

[/ QUOTE ]zOMFG, learn something every day. No wonder I always set with aces...

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really? why does AA make sets more often? doesn't make sense

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Playing poker online doesn't make sense either, but people still do it. Basically the premise is that the way the cards are shuffled, they're more prone to pushing aces towards the top of the deck. If you go to any website that allows observer chat, there are a number of hard workers trying to educate everybody about this. Obviously, some people just don't understand logic.

[/ QUOTE ]zOMFG, learn something every day. No wonder I always set with aces...

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You're also more likely to get 4-flushed or 4-straighted when you flop a set of Aces, so it all evens out in the end.

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HPFAP is old, read Miller's book instead

"i find that these hands are the biggest leaks for me, hands like AA, KK, QQ, JJ that are so difficult to get away from and that always get beaten on the river , i am thinking i should fold these preflop for the time being."
That is not correct

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HPFAP old? how about the millenium edition?
well may be not always... but many many times...
care to correct the statement and explain why?

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