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Old 05-31-2005, 04:37 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: AKo...bet turn??call river?? no reads

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That's what I was most worried about. What's your action in that case?


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If we get checkraised, it means a 10 probably 75% giving us 4 outs on the river and might mean a Q or something like 77 25% of the time, probably giving us around 6 or 7 outs. It may be close, but I'm pretty sure i'm folding.

Keep in mind also, though, that the only reason we bet here is because we think we can take down the pot. Getting check/raised would be awful, getting called is also not good, especially because we can take a freecard. We simply don't have the fold equity to make this bet, IMO, and our semibluff value goes down in this 3 way pot.
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Old 05-31-2005, 04:40 PM
jimcrow2 jimcrow2 is offline
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Default Re: AKo...bet turn??call river?? no reads

re Brice: Where di you count l5-15 outs on the flop?





Brice: Where do you get 15-16 outs on the flop?
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: AKo...bet turn??call river?? no reads

Nine diamonds for a flush.
Four Jacks for a straight.
Six overcards that would be top pair.
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Old 05-31-2005, 07:17 PM
AmarilloJim1 AmarilloJim1 is offline
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Default Re: AKo...bet turn??call river?? no reads

I vote for betting the turn as well.
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Old 05-31-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: AKo...bet turn??call river?? no reads

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I bet the turn. On drawy boards like this, I hate being bluffed off the best hand on the river. Reads would help however.

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So how about if I am check raised on the turn?

easy fold or call c/r and dump on river if UI?

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I was going to put a disclaimer on my original post that one con of betting the turn on this hand is that I'm not sure what to do with a c/r. Against a lot of opponents, this means a ten a lot of the time, and I fold. Against LAGier types, I peel.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:57 PM
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Nine diamonds for a flush.
Four Jacks for a straight.
Six overcards that would be top pair.

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Brice, He only has a daimond flush back door draw on the flop, so how would that be counted as 9 diamonds - as I understand a back door flush, it is counted - maybe - l to 1-1/2 outs?

Thank you for answering my question. Just trying to learn outs and odds. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ]


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