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Old 10-15-2005, 08:45 PM
daryn daryn is offline
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Default how much action do you give here

just arrived, no reads still.. same table as other hand

river action?

Ultimate Bet 50/100 Hold'em (7 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>,
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: how much action do you give here

id rather check/raise the river and call a 3bet. i might even cap it.

i think you need to 3bet.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: how much action do you give here

they do love thier JTsooted
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: how much action do you give here

i would threebet the river happily... this is KQ the vast majority of the time.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: how much action do you give here

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i would threebet the river happily... this is KQ the vast majority of the time.

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yeah, thats another cold call classic, and more likely here. him rasing the river is cause for pause of course, but does it outweight the mathmaticall probability of KQ? prob not.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:51 PM
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just arrived, no reads still.. same table as other hand

river action?

Ultimate Bet 50/100 Hold'em (7 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>,

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I thought you played the hand well. I well give my analysis on the river assuming there is no cap(ive never played on this site) Once he raised the river I would 3 bet him, if he 4 bets it I would probably put him on Nines full and I would 5 bet him, if he 6 bets im just calling.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: how much action do you give here

interesting thought about further action if there was no cap on raises, say in a live game
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:00 PM
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interesting thought about further action if there was no cap on raises, say in a live game

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if you were live i dont think you can 5 bet here. online against a retard you might be able to 5 bet but i think it's borderline spewing.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: how much action do you give here

KQ much more likely than JT for opponent. Both hands like to cc preflop, but JT likely to raise the flop, and also less likely to cap turn, fearing a set or KQ.

On river he thinks you have AJ, so it's a clear 3 bet, but if you are 4 bet then JT becomesthe most likely holding and 5 betting is too much action.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: how much action do you give here

Generally, i would 3 bet and call a 4 bet, even if there was not cap on the betting. If he 4 bets the river without a boat, he is dumb, and you don't want to get 6 bet obviously.
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