AQ in HUGE pot - any way to win this pot?

Akimka · #1 06-13-2005, 04:26 PM

UTG +1 is LA-P (50/0/1.5)
MP1 is LP-P (46/0/0.5)
MP2 is unknown but loose
MP3 is TAG (17.5/9/2.5) - good player I think

Questions:
1. Flop c/r - good or bad?
2. Turn c/r - good or bad?

Is there any way to play this hand differently?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Button folds, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (13.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (19.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 19.75 BB

PokerSparky · #2 06-13-2005, 04:31 PM

I like it.

SmileyEH · #3 06-13-2005, 04:31 PM

3bet preflop, go from there. I don't see this whole going crazy thing with overcards, then 1 pair.

-SmileyEH

Akimka · #4 06-13-2005, 04:33 PM

3bet PF whole field with AQ? Is it EV+?

SmileyEH · #5 06-13-2005, 04:36 PM

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3bet PF whole field with AQ? Is it EV+?

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Button is raising a bunch of hands you crush. Hell, some of the limpers might even fold. I do it, but I play pretty laggy especially preflop.

-SmileyEH

BigEndian · #6 06-13-2005, 04:39 PM

Why did you raise the turn? I don't think it's a bad raise, but I'm curious what you're thought process was.

Flop raise is ok, but when it backfires, you need to put your opponent on a real hand or a very nice draw (or they're an idiot). This board is light on the draws.

You're opponent let you off easy on the river based on his actions.

- Jim

BigEndian · #7 06-13-2005, 04:46 PM

In a limit game, definitely yes. You'll probably create some dead money, and get additional bets in when you figure to have the best hand before the flop way more times than the odds the pot will lay you.

- Jim

Akimka · #8 06-13-2005, 04:52 PM

On turn I thought that I may have hand that beats TAG guy - I put him on small pocker pair or may be on gutshout str8 draw with A. Or may be I should put him on set right after his 3 bet on flop and merely check-call rest of hand because I drawing slim and my raises will do not better for me but only for him?

BigEndian · #9 06-13-2005, 05:04 PM

While I agree with the raise on the turn, I disagree with your reasoning.

The primary reason to raise on the turn is to improve your chances of winning the pot by confronting the other players with two bets. I think it's dubious that you have a better hand than your opponent here more then 50% of the time (which are the odds you'll be getting with your raise if it gets heads from your bet). Minus the times you get 3-bet and can't fold.

- Jim

stankphish · #10 06-13-2005, 05:16 PM

Why raise the flop?