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Old 11-25-2005, 10:52 PM
gomberg gomberg is offline
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$10-20 full table

UTG 13/4/1.7 $2.5k limps, 1 more limper, I(cover table) raise to $95 w/ QQ, UTG calls, other guy folds.

flop ($240) 8hTc6d check, I bet $150, UTG CR to $350, I call.

Turn ($940) 5s UTG bets $375, I raise to $750, UTG pushes, I fold.

Only read is that this is most likely a PP and I almost never min-raise.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:55 PM
kagame kagame is offline
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Default Re: i play bad

pretty sure i prefer a flop raise or a cold call on the turn

care to comment on why you tried this line? what you were trying to accomplish?
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: i play bad

I raise more preflop, I'd probably call turn or fold flop?
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:34 PM
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a flop 3 bet would be terrible
call behind turn, re-eval river
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: i play bad

It was more of a freeze bet and since he hadn't seen me min-raise like that, I thought he wouldn't push w/out a better hand than I had. Hmmm, don't know about a 3bet there on the flop... Calling the turn was for sure an option.
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:16 AM
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So your miniraise on the turn was just to gain information? Since you folded after he pushed were you just seeing if he pushed so you could fold and then not have to call off the rest of your stack?

Also, what happens if villian just calls. Then what is your plan for the river. If he checks do you check behind? What if he leads out on river?
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:22 AM
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I'd be really worried against a rock here. You are behind on flop for sure.
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Old 11-26-2005, 02:50 AM
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yeah, at the time I was thinking a half info / half value bet. If he calls, I for sure check behind on the river and hope to see JJ.

I think the correct play here was to fold the flop aganist this guy. I'm in too marginal a spot there against a tight non-aggro player.
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:54 AM
cero_z cero_z is offline
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Default Re: i play bad

Hey Jeff,

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$10-20 full table...I(cover table)

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You've come a long way in a short time, dude; I doubt you play bad.

This looks a lot like a set; I'm inclined to call the flop and fold the turn unimproved against a non-tricky player. As you noted, JJ is the only non-bluff you beat, and this would be a weird spot for a guy with those stats (or almost anyone) to bluff.
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:57 AM
AEKDBet AEKDBet is offline
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fold preflop


lol god i am funnyy, sory drynk. seriously thog at this poitn u are 100% sure uy are beat/ the onyl deb ate is weather or not u can get away before this ppoint. (spell check off nigga!)
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