TPTK vs Tag 3 bet on flop.

[ackid]

Whats up guys? I played a hand last night that confused me. Did I play this right?

Party 1/2 Full.

Villian is in bb and a TAP (20/6.23). Button is a total LAG.
Hero is in the Hijack w/ A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]/10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Preflop: 4 folds, MP2 limps, Hero raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Villian calls.

Flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players) 4.5 bb.

Villian checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, Villian 3-bets, Hero calls. Should I have capped this or is a call ok?

Turn 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players) 8.5bb.

Villian bets, Hero folds, Button raises, Hero calls.
I had a strong feel I was beat here maybe by 88 or JJ and the pot wasnt that big so I let it go.

River 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players) 12.5bb

Villian checks, Button bets, Villian calls.
Now Im not so sure.

Final Pot 14.5 bb.

[jaxUp]

You can probably fold the flop. A flop c/3bet by a TAP usually means business.

*Grunch*

I like the preflop play.

I'd fold to the flop 3-bet. You are probably drawing pretty slim here.

[@bsolute_luck]

fold the flop? what for? you think he has a set? i'm calling easy given he might have a weaker T, we have the BDFD and an overcard. the turn is the tough part because our hand may very well be simply up against a weaker T or have 5 full outs and we're getting break even odds to call to see the river. i don't think folding is bad though since we only have 2 stats to look at.

stats aren't enough for me to think our hand is that far behind, if behind at all.

[ackid]

Thanks for the input guys. I really didnt see this guy in alot of hands and he had pretty decent stats which made me think I was behind. Which made what he held surprising.

When he called the LAGs bet on the river he shows 99 and took the pot. I felt like a supreme douche.

Very confused by your post. Did Villian check the flop and then 3 bet? If so, then folding here may be the better option. Otherwise, I probably (>75%) fold the turn bet.

[ackid]

Sorry about that. Yes, He did check flop and then 3-bet.

[milesdyson]

eh it really depends on if you think he knows button is a maniac as well. if he does know this, his check 3-bet is not as scary as it seems. if he knows it, i would consider the 3-bet more like just a check raise against me.

it really sucks that you don't have position on these two.

[ackid]

[ QUOTE ]
eh it really depends on if you think he knows button is a maniac as well. if he does know this, his check 3-bet is not as scary as it seems. if he knows it, i would consider the 3-bet more like just a check raise against me.

it really sucks that you don't have position on these two.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is a very good point and along the same lines I was thinking which made a fold seem like the right play.

[EgoSlasher]

A passive opponent is 3betting you, Fold. Occasionally he may showdown something stupid but those occasions will be rare.