Caro:"In Poker, Math is MEANINGLESS!"

[TaintedRogue]

Dr. Christopher Ferguson says: "People who think math isn't important in poker, do not know the right math."

Now, I know Mr. Caro's hairstyle and personality earn him a lot of followers, however, doesn't the Dr. have a few more bracelets than the personable Mr. Caro, not to mention a much higher level of intelligence? (No offense to Mr. Caro)

[pzhon]

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Why do I think this statement was takin completely out of context?

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It is theoretically possible that after many out-of-context quotes, Vincent Letroll finally repeated one in context. It's just improbable.

[TexArcher]

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Bluff Magazine: Mike Caro's column: WISDOM, improve your game p.96.

"In poker, math is meaningless..." Mike Caro.

Vince

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Why do I suspect that those ellipses represent omitted text that would make this quote actually make sense?

Caro's site has math all over it, his tables are in SuperSystem for God's sake.

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When is the last time a mathemitician or Kid from MIT won the WSOP?

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did you mis-read what i said or can i just not see the emphasis on WHEN WAS....?

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Yeah I misread what you said, sorry

[Vincent Lepore]

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Why do I think this statement was takin completely out of context?

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Maybe you have a problem when it comes to thinking?
Just a guess.

Vince

[Vincent Lepore]

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Vincent Letroll

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Is this retaliation for showing you up in your specialty on the probability forum, or is it more likely that you are as I first thought a big mouth scumbag? Please be specific.

Vince

[pzhon]

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Vincent Letroll

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Is this retaliation for showing you up in your specialty on the probability forum,


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You didn't show me up. You exposed your ignorance of undergraduate-level probability, though you might not understand the discussion. You made repeated false statements, and claimed that you "stood by your words," but you refused offers by me and by Alex/Mugaaz to bet real money on whether the statements where we disagreed with you were correct. I'm still willing to bet.

Here are some of your false statements (typos etc. left as in the original):

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] "The cap on betting is the reason that the martingdale system cannot work."

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] "While it is true that there is no one with an infinite bankroll it is also true that there are people with bankrolls large enough to beat a casino with a doubling up system that is given a large number of double ups."

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] "that is close enough to %100 in my favor as to be accepted as the expected result."

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] "The fact is that the only way to clasiify a game as a negative EV game is to do so by using an infiite number of Trials...when the pass line is evaluated in the Game of craps that to show that it is a -EV bet one must use an infinite number of trials."

Again, everyone stipulates that a martingale system might work in some sense if you have an infinite bankroll, but that no one has an infinite bankroll. Where we disagree is the statements you have made about finite bankrolls and buying in to a real poker table with a finite number of chips.

You were called an idiot in the Mid-High Stakes NL forum and told to go look up the math behind the martingale. You asked for a second opinion in the Probability forum, and were told again that you don't understand the math behind the martingale.

Now you have quoted a respected authority out of context to try to start another contentless argument (whose resolution will involve restoring the context), as you have done many times in the past. (I'm not the only one who has pointed out that this is a habit of yours.) You are abusing the trust of those who assume that you might be quoting people in context. You are a troll.

[Vincent Lepore]

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You are a troll.

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Don't worry I won't be trolling anymore of your garbage filled name calling threads. You are ignored.

Vince

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Vince:

I beat you to it and already posted the quote on our books forum.

Best wishes,
Mason

[Vincent Lepore]

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Why do I suspect that those ellipses represent omitted text that would make this quote actually make sense?

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Maybe because you are a fool?

Caro's point is that in poker Math is meaningless and psychology is everything, plain and simple.

Vince