Turn call?

Just realized how stupid this sounds, sorry

[TStoneMBD]

im not mocking you, i partially agree with you. bryce is being ridiculous. your logic is still somewhat flawed but an arguement could be made for not raising preflop.

that being said i raise, easy.

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3 clean outs to the gutshot.

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FYP.

I don't think this is a call. You have a player behind you yet to act who may call, but may also raise.

Aside from only having 3 clean outs, the negative implied odds will eat away at you on the river when you hit a tainted K, Q or Js.