Hand for review - K8s in middle position

#1 10-05-2005, 02:03 AM

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

The villan here is very loose passive....60.7/3.4/0.7

I am thinking that the river call was very bad, but could I have even folded this hand on the turn?

Thoughts and comments are appreciated!

Margon

DaSpade · #2 10-05-2005, 02:33 AM

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I am thinking that the river call was very bad, but could I have even folded this hand on the turn?

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You have the nut flush draw and 2nd pair on the turn - do not even think about folding it on the turn.

deepsquat · #3 10-05-2005, 02:34 AM

folding this hand on the turn is not an option. You have the nut flush draw, NEVER FOLD! A river fold is possible as its unlikely a passive will raise the turn w/out TP or better but i think u will be good here 1 in 7 so it think its a pretty standard call.

witeknite · #4 10-05-2005, 11:47 AM

Do you really think Hero is good here 1 in 7 on the river? I can't think of any hands a passive is raising the turn with that we beat here. Maybe (big maybe) a worse K, but I doubt it. Any thoughts?

WiteKnite

wheelz · #5 10-05-2005, 11:51 AM

yeah pretty easy river fold. a player like that isn't raising the turn with less than second pair. good up until then though.

obsidian · #6 10-05-2005, 11:56 AM

This is a pretty easy river fold. Middle pair is just about never good here when a passive player raises you on the turn.

stigmata · #7 10-05-2005, 11:57 AM

Easy turn call, Easy river fold.

You raised preflop, an ace came on the flop, and you got raised on the turn by a passive player. He will have a worse hand here almost 0% of the time, but you have odds to suck out.

#8 10-05-2005, 12:50 PM

Take the free card on the turn. You'll never fold an ace, and your sidecard may or may not be enough. You have outs.

witeknite · #9 10-05-2005, 12:53 PM

Free card?

WiteKnite

mmmmmbrother · #10 10-05-2005, 12:54 PM

how can hero take a free card on the turn

you have to call the turn, and you have to fold the river

it really sucks you are oop