Going against the public

Slacker13 · #1 09-30-2005, 03:55 PM

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In regards to slacker - I'm pretty sure there are no "traps" as some people like to say.

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I just want to ad something then i gotta run. We both have our opinions on this and without actual proof we will never have anything more than an opinion. But, my point is this, i think it is completely illogical to assume that there is this company/guy who sets the lines, he is paid for setting the lines and his job description is simple, make the sportsbooks money and he is not setting up traps.

Webster · #2 09-30-2005, 04:04 PM

Why would each casino hire a different guy when 99% of the casinos all have the same lines.

Not arguing - just curious. I don't live in LV but most online books are basically the same. Seems redundant.

Slacker13 · #3 09-30-2005, 04:53 PM

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Why would each casino hire a different guy when 99% of the casinos all have the same lines.

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Where did you get that from? I never said the casinos hire a dif guy to set lines. They hire one company and for 40 years it was Americas Line out of LV which was owned by Roxy Roxborough (sp?). The opening lines are now set by Cris Sportsbook.

While running my errands I made a call to a friend in LV who runs one of the larger sportsbooks in town at a major casino. Not that i needed to ask this question becuase I new his answer but I asked him if he thought the oddsmakers set trap games, his answer was, of course they do. Take it for what its worth.

duma · #4 09-30-2005, 06:41 PM

all the lines are set by the LVSC (Las Vegas Sports Consultants). its a group of about 5 guys who sit there all day and figure out the lines. it was on sportscenter last year when they had their 5 day series on gambling. as far as i know, these are the only guys who set the lines, and then from there the movements for each individual book change based on the money coming in.

edit: after getting more info, LVSC was founded by Roxborough. they are contracted out by the books to set the lines independently.

http://www.lvsc.com/index2.html

google cache of about.com article

Slacker13 · #5 09-30-2005, 06:49 PM

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all the lines are set by the LVSC (Las Vegas Sports Consultants). its a group of about 5 guys who sit there all day and figure out the lines. it was on sportscenter last year when they had their 5 day series on gambling. as far as i know, these are the only guys who set the lines, and then from their the movements for each individual book change based on the money coming in.

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Yes, you are correct. It use to be americas line which I believe went out of business once roxy retired or they changed the name.

Webster · #6 10-01-2005, 09:39 AM

OK - that is what I THOUGHT! Still - what is your difination of a trap. I call it a line more of 1 to 1.5 not 7 as most people think.

I hear people saying that game is -6.5 when it should be -1 there trying to trap us!!

I say their traps are not as obvious. Add a point here and ther for home favs an so forth.