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Old 08-02-2005, 03:18 AM
laserboy laserboy is offline
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Default GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

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In a wide-ranging question-and-answer session with a small group of reporters, Bush essentially endorsed efforts by Christian conservatives to give intelligent design equal standing with the theory of evolution in the nation's schools.


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Old 08-02-2005, 04:11 AM
Chris Alger Chris Alger is offline
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

From the article: "President Bush waded into the debate over evolution and "intelligent design" Monday, saying schools should teach both theories on the creation and complexity of life.

"Both theories"? The other one beginning with "once upon a time, there was an invisible king . . . ?"

"Intelligent design" is merely a backdoor for compulsory indoctrination about an intellgent designer. It's proponents still can't offer a satisfactory reply to Lord Spencer (1852): "Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts, seem quite to forget that their own theory is supported by no facts at all." Or even Monty Python ("all things scabbed and ulcerous, all pox both great and small . . . ").
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

I am not surprised. I believed, from the start of the second term, that this term the Christian theological agenda was likely to be Bush's top domestic concern.

See Today on Dr Dobson's radio broadcast. Coincidence?


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On other topics, Bush said he has no idea how Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts would vote in a case challenging the legality of abortion because he never asked him about it.

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I find this hard to believe. I would be willing to wager that someone asked him the question, directly or indirectly. If the quote is accurate, then it is only so because HE did not ask the question, not that the question was not asked.
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Old 08-02-2005, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

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In a wide-ranging question-and-answer session with a small group of reporters, [insert polititian du jour] essentially endorsed efforts by [insert special interest group] to give [insert controversial theory] equal standing with the theory of [insert other theory] in the nation's schools.


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Why would anyone let the government "educate" their kids?
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Old 08-02-2005, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

As an American...

How can anyone argue with teaching various theories about the origins of life and leave it up to people to decide?

Boy, doesn't seem like you have a whole lot of confidence in people ability to choose for themselves.

If a theory is erronous, it will become clear at some point, but until that point comes. Anyone who says that this theory or that theory is correct at the expense of another theory is just hiding behind ignorance and prejudice.

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Old 08-02-2005, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

We teach our kids about Communism but that doesn't make them believe in it.

Can't teaching our kids promient relgious and scientific theories be considered educational, if taught in an objective manner?
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

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How can anyone argue with teaching various theories about the origins of life and leave it up to people to decide

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What about the theory that the earth sits on a turtles back? Should that be given equal weight?

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Boy, doesn't seem like you have a whole lot of confidence in people ability to choose for themselves.



If a theory is erronous, it will become clear at some point, but until that point comes.

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Firstly, they are children. And secondly from a personal point of view, no, I do not have a whole lot of confidence in peoples abilities judge different theories on their merits.

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Anyone who says that this theory or that theory is correct at the expense of another theory is just hiding behind ignorance and prejudice.

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This is just so wrong. Do you realise this argument has been used throughout history to perpetuate some of the worst crimes in all humanity. Try getting the word evidence into this sentence and you may have something.
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

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We teach our kids about Communism but that doesn't make them believe in it

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We do not. We teach our children that communism is evil. When they go to college or university they actually get taught about stuff where they can form an opinion.

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Can't teaching our kids promient relgious and scientific theories be considered educational, if taught in an objective manner?

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A nice ideal but unfortunately the people pushing for these kind of reforms have absolutely no interest in objectivety.
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

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If a theory is erronous, it will become clear at some point, but until that point comes. Anyone who says that this theory or that theory is correct at the expense of another theory is just hiding behind ignorance and prejudice.


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So are you saying all theories are created equal?
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: GWB endorses teaching \"intelligent design\" to schoolchildren!

I am pretty sure in high school you get taught what communism is.

And besides if you don't believe in evolution or creatism then talk to you own kids about it.
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