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Old 12-23-2005, 11:56 AM
Bradyams Bradyams is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

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How many hours per day though? I don't want to sit at my computer, four tabling all day long. Of course, I only have 2000 FPPs in my account now, and only play 1/2 LHE. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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Once you move up to 2/4 the FPPs stack up a lot faster.
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

buh bye party poker.

Now if only I could get stars to change my screen name so everyone cant see how bad I suck :/
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

A lot faster? Any idea how much, because I am almost at 300 BBs for 2/4 and will hopefully make it there by mid to late January. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:08 PM
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Starting at the bronze level on 1/1/06 you would need to play:

1500 raked hands ($300 in tourney fees) to make the silver level

You get the silver level benefits immediately including the FPP bonus. You need 2500 more FPP to get the gold level but you get a 50% bonus so this means 1,666.67 raked hands ($333.33 tourney fees) for a total of 3,166.67 raked hands ($633.33 tourney fees).

This gives you the gold level which comes with a 100% FPP bonus. You need an additional 6000 points to make the platinum level so that would be 3000 raked hands ($600 tourney fees) or totals of 6166.67 raked hands ($1233.33 tourney fees).

From zero to platinum takes 6,167 raked hands or $1234 in tourney fees.

Once you’re at the platinum level, you get a 150% FPP bonus so maintaining platinum status would require just 4000 raked hands.

The math:

1500 raked hands with no bonus = 1500 FPP
+ 1667 raked hands with 50% bonus = 4000.5 FPP
+ 3000 raked hands with 100% bonus = 10000.5 FPP

4000 raked hands with 150% bonus = 4000 * 2.5 = 10,000

Note, this is for the pot limit, no limit, and 2/4 and higher limit

Someone check my math with ya?

It seems like attaining and maintaining platinum status wouldn't be all that difficult if you were doing it professionally.
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:09 PM
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It takes 3,000,000 FPPs to get a Porsche Cayman S, which retails for $60,000. It costs $600,000 in tournament entries to get 3,000,000 FPPs equating to 10% rakeback. However, the VIP program accelerates your acruement of FPPs. If you are a Gold Star member you get the equivalent of 20% rakeback, Platinum Star member 25%, Supernova 35%.

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I think the Porsche is more of a "look what you can win" wow type thing than a realistic goal.
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:12 PM
IggyWH IggyWH is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

As a little note (I didn't see it anywhere on the site), the tenative plan I saw was basic FPP's for high price items, and did not include the bonus FPP's earned. Not sure if this is what they finally agreed to do or not though.
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:12 PM
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you dont get bonus vpp's only fpps

Q. What is a VIP Player Point?

A. Every time you earn a Frequent Player Point (FPP) by playing in a cash game or tournament, you earn a VPP. Note that bonus FPPs, such as those accrued through elite status, do not qualify for VPPs. Specifically, the following do not accrue VPPs:

1. You play (and win) a 1,000 FPP satellite that awards a seat into a 10,000 FPP satellite. You choose to unregister from that larger satellite and take the 10,000 FPPs. They do not accrue VPPs.

2. Bonus FPPs that you accrued through the VIP FPP program. For instance, suppose you are a SilverStar VIP. SilverStar members receive a weekly 50% FPP bonus. So if you earn 400 FPPs in a week, we give you 200 bonus FPPs. Each of the 400 FPPs that you earn gets you a VPP; the 200 bonus FPPs we give you do not.

3. FPPs that we may give you for completing surveys, etc.
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:12 PM
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Crap, I spoke too soon.

The bonus FPP points don't count towards advancing your status. That blows.
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:16 PM
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Not at all difficult to obtain if you play fulltime, I have looked into Pokertracker, % of hands raked, how much I play etc. and would gather appx. 25,000 FPPs pr month. Half a month to get to Platinum and only 4 months to get to Supernova. But the FPP-structure means I would get almost the same reward for playing 5/10 as 15/30 or even 100/200. It rewards quantity, not playing at higher limit. If they could increase it to 2FPPs per hand raked at $3 from 15/30 and up it would be nice [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (come on, Lee, it will make me change [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) .
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

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Not at all difficult to obtain if you play fulltime, I have looked into Pokertracker, % of hands raked, how much I play etc. and would gather appx. 25,000 FPPs pr month. Half a month to get to Platinum and only 4 months to get to Supernova. But the FPP-structure means I would get almost the same reward for playing 5/10 as 15/30 or even 100/200. It rewards quantity, not playing at higher limit. If they could increase it to 2FPPs per hand raked at $3 from 15/30 and up it would be nice [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (come on, Lee, it will make me change [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) .

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$3 rake is $3 rake, why would they care what you limit you play?
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