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Old 12-15-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

5-10 NL 7 players (4 sitting out) so really 3 players

Effective stacks 1200
Hero is delt A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button

Hero raises to 35
SB folds
BB re-raises to 70 (no reads on him yet as I just sat down an orbit ago and busted a shorti with KK. So I have no image yet)
Hero calls

Flop is A 2 7r (pot 145)

Villian Bets 250
Whats the plan?
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:04 PM
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I would call and probably fold to any further aggression on later streets.

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Old 12-15-2005, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

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I would call and probably fold to any further aggression on later streets.

Dumle

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This wouldnt be a good to make with AA (IMO), since you arent calling anyway without an ace or another set, since only a set or an ace would give him action on this flop, and he sells a bluff.

It could also be KK puting in his last dime into the pot.

I think with AK he woulda led half pot.

Dumle's call line and fold to further aggression is ok I guess (I cant think of an alternate one), I think you see a set or a big wired pair a huge portion of the time.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

I find calling here to be perhaps the worst option. Why build a huge pot if you have no intention of going foward if he fires a second barrel. To me this was a line between pushing and folding.... Thoughts? I'm not saying im right just my thoughts at the time...
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

with no reads I fold. I like to know if he'll slowdown when I call his c-bet. Push is super ugly.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

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with no reads I fold. I like to know if he'll slowdown when I call his c-bet. Push is super ugly.

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I agree with folding. ALthough, if you have a solid read (which i didnt) i think pushing would be fine.
Anyway I mucked and he didnt show. But i wanted to see if people thought this was weak....
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

Push is definitely the worst option. I am not familiar with the dynamics of donkish live play in the US but I think KK is the most likely hand, this bet smells a bit scared to me.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

fold
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

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Push is definitely the worst option. I am not familiar with the dynamics of donkish live play in the US but I think KK is the most likely hand, this bet smells a bit scared to me.

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Thats the only reason pushing crossed my mind. to KK would probably play a bit scared and overbet. But again with little info and not much in the pot i didnt want to pay to find out.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Ace with a weakish kicker short handed ( 5-10NL) whats my action?

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I find calling here to be perhaps the worst option. Why build a huge pot if you have no intention of going foward if he fires a second barrel. To me this was a line between pushing and folding.... Thoughts? I'm not saying im right just my thoughts at the time...

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calling >>> raising imo
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