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Old 11-23-2005, 10:59 PM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Default 30-60 Hand against jennicide

Here's a hand that was played not by me, but by my good friend geormiet, who also decided to invite ten losers from our language school over for a Costa Rican Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow night forcing me to clean and to do other crap that I'd rather not do.

Preflop geormiet open raises from MP with KK. He is threebet by jennicide who is in the SB. BB folds and geormiet caps.

The flop is QT4 rainbow. Jennicide bets, geormiet raises, jennicide threebets.

The turn is a rag. Jennicide bets, geormiet raises, jennicide threebets, geormiet folds.

-Michael
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: 30-60 Hand against jennicide

dont like that turn raise, call down.
if you need to put in one more raise, raise a good river.
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: 30-60 Hand against jennicide

So that was the plan. Raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet? Hmmm.
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:04 AM
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What are you saying? hmmmm
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: 30-60 Hand against jennicide

I can't seem to find a range of hands to put jennicide on at that point which makes it a good plan. Maybe I'm not trying hard enough. But you come up with a range of hands and we can postulate how she'll react to a raise. And then we can say whether your plan made sense.
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: 30-60 Hand against jennicide

AA, AQ, KQ, QQ, TT, with AQ being the most likely.
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: 30-60 Hand against jennicide

I think you need to lelaise. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:29 AM
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"with AQ being the most likely."

But if this is true, then folding is obviously wrong. The problem I see is that for this to be true, we have to assume that jennicide is making no effort to read your hand, as you cannot possibly have a hand worse than AQ at this point in the action.

-Michael
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: 30-60 Hand against jennicide

Thank you. So you are behind 12, all of which leave you 2 outs, and all of which may 3 bet, half of which are guaranteed to 3 bet. You are ahead of 18, 12 of which have 5 outs, and 6 of which have 2 outs. You aren't going to bet the river if an A hits, presumably. Are you going to bet the river if a blank hits? How much work do I have to show?
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: 30-60 Hand against jennicide

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"with AQ being the most likely."

But if this is true, then folding is obviously wrong. The problem I see is that for this to be true, we have to assume that jennicide is making no effort to read your hand, as you cannot possibly have a hand worse than AQ at this point in the action.

-Michael

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I think he means that is her hand range when she leads the turn, his turn range will then almost perfectly for hero sperate her hand range.

I'd rather 'raise the river to save bets' spicyf style.
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