"What's good for General Motors, is good for America!"

[Cyrus]

Pain is good for you.

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GM announces it will eliminate 30,000 manufacturing jobs, including a production line in Spring Hill, Tennessee, where the Ion compact car is produced. Other communities in Oklahoma, Georgia, Michigan and Canada are also facing a future without jobs.

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CNN : Automaker ups job cuts to 30,000 jobs

CNN : Shock and sadness at GM plants

[MMMMMM]

That's what inevitably happens when you pay your help too much for too long.

[BCPVP]

Always a good question to ask: so what?

(cue the parade of libs who condemn me for being callous)

[Jdanz]

i'm a pretty liberal guy, but i don't really know what to do about outsourcing and downsizing. They seem inevitable, and it would be pretty inefficent to demand a less efficent outcome.

I think if you really are on the liberal side of things the better area to focus on is a social safety net rather then on specific instances of market self-correction.

[adios]

The title of your post is still true.

Bust the unions up and pay all auto workers a market wage with market benefits. This isn't 1905 and is a pretty simple solution actually.

[lehighguy]

Bad Management + Greedy Employees = You Lose

What happened was destined.

[Jdanz]

meh, i don't know how i feel about unions, i know they make the outcome less efficent, but you can look at manchester england in the early 1800s if you want to see what happens without them in poor urban areas.

In "real" capitalism unions are bad things, because anyone can become a producer, in today's world the owners of capital have such an advantageous bargaining position that pure free market capitalism has (IMHO) some serious distributional issues.

[Cyrus]

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"What's good for General Motors, is good for America!"

[/ QUOTE ] The title of your post is still true.

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Define "America".

[Cyrus]

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I'm a pretty liberal guy, but i don't really know what to do about outsourcing and downsizing. They seem inevitable.

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Just thinking out loud : How would you feel about tariffs that would enable the paycheck of the American worker to compete with the paycheck of the Vietnamese worker?

The American worker gets more than the 1,500,000 dong per month his Vietnamese competitor gets, but this is not because of the unions only, it's because the of the level of living standards in the U.S.

(1,500,000 vietnamese dong = $100)