Mods please chill...."8-tabling and such" (cont)

[downtown]

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At what x does x-tabling take away from your ROI because you can't observe player characteristics effectively?

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At the 55s, I would guess x > 12. I 10-table, and I can observe many of the key elements of a hand instantaneously (<1 second) that account for I would estimate 95% of my decisions. Beyond that I have information such as PT stats by # of players remaining, hand history, # of games I've played with this person, notes, etc. available for other circumastances in those estimated 5% of hands where I have to "think" about what to do, which make my decisions just as easy then. I very rarely time out, but I very often come close when I am near the bubble on many tables at once, so I'm guessing 12 is near the max where you could effectively operate without taking such a hit to your ROI that it wouldn't just be better to play a lesser # of tables.

At the 33s and below, I would guess x > 16. Same reasoning as above, with more simplified decisions on the bubble and such.

At the 109s and above, I have no idea. I plan on dropping to 8 when I take stabs at the 109s.

All those above #'s are assuming you have monitors that show your tables without overlap. (though I have some overlap with tables 9 and 10 when I play)

[bjb23]

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do you look at porn while you play?? ...

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That would make the variable "3x" correct? I dunno what you guys look at but anything else aint worth it.

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lol, nh pooh.

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lol nh

[UMTerp]

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Q: Uhhh, OK, sir, but...

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[ZeroPointMachine]

Here's one possible suggestion for keeping things manageable while 8-tabling. It just occurred to me so I'll give it a try tonight.

During the first third of the set, when things are pretty easily manageable, I am going to make an effort to reaarange my tables so that the ones with the fewest number of players are on the left and it increases as you move to the right. I think this little bit of housekeeping could help me keep tables prioritized when things get a little more hectic.

[EarlOfSandwich]

I'm glad this question came up again, because it's something I have been wondering about.

I started playing SnGs about a month ago, before which I played mostly NL ring games and MTTs. I'm not a pro and play maybe 1 or 2 hours a day, on average.

I started at the 22s, and used those to figure out my game. I've found multitabling surprisingly difficult, though. The most I've done is 3-tabling the 22s, and I'm now 2-tabling the 33s, with an eye toward 3-tabling them and then perhaps moving to the 55s.

On the one hand, I feel like I'm pretty solid and significantly better than the competition. On the other hand, I still find myself making mistakes. I would say maybe 1 out of 3 tables I make some sort of move that I realize to be an error moments later.

My problem with multitabling is mostly in two places. First, on the border between levels 3 and 4, where, if you haven't built a stack, you have to find the best spot or two to make a move. If you don't watch the tables closely when counting down to that level 4, you could find yourself with 500 chips and being the first person to pay level 4 blinds. Not exactly ideal.

I have more trouble, actually, with final 2. If I have one table at final 2 and one (or more) others at the hectic late stages, I often play poor heads-up poker. Sometimes it doesn't matter, if the blinds are big and/or stacks uneven. Sometimes it does -- like if you're both at 4k and the blinds are $150. Gotta play some poker then.

I'm guessing that moving up levels will help me ultimately dispell those problem areas. By the time I move up and beat the 55s, I'll have worked on my game enough and built enough confidence/bankroll to multitable the 33s or 22s.

[Big Limpin']

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At what x does x-tabling take away from your ROI because you can't observe player characteristics effectively?

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Im not sure, yet. But i think its not a static number. With experience will come accustomisation, and you will "need" less time per decision? Or time to train your talent in monitoring the action at several tables simultaneously.

I remember when i first 2-tabled. That was alot of action, damn. Heh. And then 4 seemed like I was pushing the very boundaries of what my brain could process.

So i think for me or you, now, we are past the x of:
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At what x does x-tabling take away from your ROI because you can't observe player characteristics effectively?

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but that x will rise with time. hopefully up to the full amount. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I've not logged enough sample, but my return seemes about 5 points lower with respect to only quadding. And i wouldnt be suprised if it never rises to that level. THe earn rate, $/hr, however, is markedly higher. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[UMTerp]

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Lidge: Sure thing, coach!

[runner4life7]

no offense but this idea is terrible in my opinion. If you are having troubles watching 8 tables. Trying to organize them like this is going to make it harder for that period and not help at all. If you cant multitask that well then try 6 till thats easy. I remember when 4 tabling was hard then 8 tabling was hard and now i 10 table while spinning in circles in my chair. So get somewhere and get comfortable and gradually move up and practice more. Its thats simple.

[pokerdirty]

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haha, this is my boss' quote, only different.