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Old 10-25-2005, 09:39 AM
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I dont think we are the ones making her into something she is not.

I dont think Cyrus is making you into something you are not.

Your life, your views.
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:47 AM
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I dont think we are the ones making her into something she is not.

I dont think Cyrus is making you into something you are not.

Your life, your views.

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Have you read her biography? (not just some media summary)

Politicians and people in social movements are all about creating spin about what they are doing. Have you not learned this yet?

My view is to view people as they really are, not as their image-makers make them appear.
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:56 AM
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Like I said in a previous post.

She said she would. She did. It took guts and courage. It helped change America.

Combine that with other "pawns" and we got the civil rights movement.

A pawn - I think not.
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:58 AM
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My view is to view people as they really are, not as their image-makers make them appear.

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Did you forget the halo emoticon?
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:01 AM
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I dont think we are the ones making her into something she is not.

I dont think Cyrus is making you into something you are not.

Your life, your views.

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Have you read her biography? (not just some media summary)

Politicians and people in social movements are all about creating spin about what they are doing. Have you not learned this yet?

My view is to view people as they really are, not as their image-makers make them appear.

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Now you are way off, man. I don't know much about this woman, but I respect everyone that fights to stop injustice. I think they are brave. When it in addition is people who understands how to appeal to human compassion by forcing the oppressor to show his real evil face (as she did), it makes them brave and intelligent. The world has way too few of such people (Amnesty report for 2004 is not happy reading) and to honor those who stand out to make a difference (like her) is at least a minor encouragement to her and others, which I think you could offer.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:12 AM
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There is nothing wrong with being a pawn. Many a game of chess is won by a pawn and pawns have been important to many a political or social movement. I'd be a pawn for a good cause too.

The best way to honor someone who has been a pawn for a cause is to respect them for being that pawn for a cause.

To remember a false image of a person shows no respect for her at all. So why do some here feel they must do so?
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:15 AM
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It seems pretty clear to me that you're denigrating this woman. And when you say "she really didn't do much of anything" that pretty much tells me you didn't really read any decent biography. Just readying the blurbs on various websites about her life tells me she did a lot in her life to help civil rights.

She also recieved the highest possible civilian award (Congressional Gold Medal, I believe it's called) in 1999, a tribute to what she did with her life.

Like I said, it seems like you've got an some weird anti-Rosa Parks agenda that actually does, honestly, make you come off a bit racist. That being said, tell me what biography you read that lead you to believe that she didn't do much.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:25 AM
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It seems pretty clear to me that you're denigrating this woman.

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It seems pretty clear to me that you are putting thoughts into people's heads. Read my actual words literally and you might just realize that you are wrong.


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She also recieved the highest possible civilian award (Congressional Gold Medal, I believe it's called) in 1999, a tribute to what she did with her life.


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Awards mean nothing, they reflect the feelings of the people who decide who wins the award. You make a big mistake if you assume objectivity in awards.

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it seems like you've got an some weird anti-Rosa Parks agenda

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Amazing. I've been talking about honoring her as she really was instead of some false spin image, and you think that is anti-Rosa Parks. The people who worship the phony spin are the ones disrespecting her. I honor the real person, it appears I am the only one who is honoring the real person. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:01 PM
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Amazing. I've been talking about honoring her as she really was instead of some false spin image, and you think that is anti-Rosa Parks. The people who worship the phony spin are the ones disrespecting her. I honor the real person, it appears I am the only one who is honoring the real person.

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Come on, it's obvious:
1. You disagree with them about a factual issue.
2. The subject of the fact is black.

Racism if I ever saw it...
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:34 PM
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Come on, it's obvious:
1. You disagree with them about a factual issue.
2. The subject of the fact is black.

Racism if I ever saw it...

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I'm not going to call them racist, even though, as you point out, they have a warped view of a factual issue involving a black subject. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
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