Action Completion?

[helpmeout]

What would big stack call with decent hands when he can steal the blinds?

He is likely limping with cheese like Q7s K5o etc all of which you are likely 60/40 ahead.

Add the extra dead money in the pot and it is very favourable.

What happens when you limp, sometimes you let BB call with a better Ace and you bust out when you flop an Ace. He will also put in a raise a few times.

You hand isnt that crash hot if you flop anything other than an Ace. You are likely getting called by at least the big stack when you flop a FD when he has a pair and a pair of 4s is weak.

Most times you will have to check/fold the flop unimproved.

By limping the likely scenario is you lose this hand you end up with $825 left on the next hand so you are looking at 4th regardless.

[lorinda]

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Most times you will have to check/fold the flop unimproved.

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You are almost there. What is the likely flop action if you take Yugo's reads into account.

Lori (Who may have written an article about this at some point)

[The Yugoslavian]

Oh, I should probably point out that if my read on Cabone is a bit different and I think he's playing preflop more actively and pushing a lot then an action minraise here from is a great option regardless of my hand. A true action bluff.

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Yugoslav

[helpmeout]

BB bets anything you fold a pair of 4s and push with a FD and get beat by a pair unimproved.

20% of the time you flop an Ace with no guarantee of doubling up.

[lorinda]

You missed a player out. His reads may also apply, although we don't know for sure.

Lori

[helpmeout]

Well its obvious that big stack is gonna call you with a pair.

So you are gonna have to commit your stack in most situations other than when you check/fold and have just over 800 chips in the BB.

[lorinda]

The point is, he will also call the other guy with a pair.

Our call can induce action that in itself can get us into third place.

Given that our hand isn't actually appalling, and that the other two players have the potential to push all in, and call all in, our presence in the pot can lead to the BB getting himself knocked out.

We can also flop something.

Now, I'm not saying that this is a common play, in fact I've stated before that I think it's very uncommon. I do however think that in this situation, with a limping calling station and an aggressive other short stack that Yugo can limp here and try to generate action at the cost of only 100 chips.

He may check fold the flop but find himself in the money.

Lori

[raptor517]

EZ limp imo. i like seein a flop here. holla

[helpmeout]

fair enough but if BB pushes preflop you fold right

[lorinda]

Yes.

I want him to push preflop. Limper has a habit of calling short stacks.....

I think my limp gives him more chance to push.

Lori