A 2+2 table hand. Short handed and 1/2 limit but it belongs here.

Joe Tall · #1 02-13-2005, 02:49 AM

This was a 6-max table, but I'd like this forum to view it over as I was told I played it horrible by Orbflux and I'd really like to know why. I was also asked if I've ever played limit because I have to have HUGE swings if I play AA this way by Orbflux. For the record, the BB in this hand was a horrible loose-aggressive-bluffer and the only non-2+2er. Where did I go wrong?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold, Orbflux of HydraIRC-chat raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, Orbflux of HydraIRC-chat calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, Orbflux of HydraIRC-chat raises, BB calls, Hero 3-bets, orbflux of HydraIRC-chat calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, orbflux of HydraIRC-chat calls, BB calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets

Thanks boys,
Joe Tall

cold_cash · #2 02-13-2005, 03:01 AM

I'd probably raise the flop, especially after capping pre-flop, but I guess doing whatever gets the most money works for me. The flop action is kinda weird though.

If he trapped w/ QQ or JJ and raised you on the river, that's the way it goes. Even so, I don't know what he expected you to do differently, fold to his flop raise?

Joe Tall · #3 02-13-2005, 03:05 AM

I'd probably raise the flop, especially after capping pre-flop

Once the live one bets, I was quite sure that Orb would raise. I was also quite sure my hand was still unknown by limp-reraise/then call the flop. It makes the play on the flop quite easy.

you to do differently, fold to his flop raise?

I tried to ask. But his answer was to kick me off the chat. Not sure what that meant, you decide. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Peace,
Joe Tall

Alexthegreat · #4 02-13-2005, 03:07 AM

Looks really good to me.....Seems like you got a lot of bets in with what is by far the best hand...I'd only be concerned with QQ or JJ, but there isn't anything you could do differently to avoid those hands....

Nice hand...

Joe Tall · #5 02-13-2005, 03:23 AM

He had T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] what do you think of his play?

Thanks boys,
Joe Tall

sfer · #6 02-13-2005, 02:57 PM

He should have folded to the cap preflop.

EDIT: This is assuming you were playing in-line.

Joe Tall · #7 02-13-2005, 03:04 PM

He should have folded to the cap preflop.

You know what Dave, that slipped my mind. You are 100% correct and I was playing mean-poker at that table, perfectly inline. Yes, his preflop call is HORRIBLE.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Coolio,
JT

pudley4 · #8 02-13-2005, 08:07 PM

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He had T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] what do you think of his play?

Thanks boys,
Joe Tall

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He's just pissed because he played his hand like shi[/b]t.

nh

Schneids · #9 02-14-2005, 03:24 PM

Orb's flop raise is awful unless you have AK and he expects the BB to 3-bet on the flop and that he knows you'll fold an unimproved AK by the river and that you aren't going to hit an ace or king and that if he hits a ten or nine it's good versus BB and that his flop raise is going to make you think it's less likely he has a flush draw (so he'll get more action when it hits) since conventional wisdom would say call on this flop raising is worthless since it's likely somebody will 3-bet and deny you a free turn card.

If all of these are true then Orb's flop raise is good.

Sarge85 · #10 02-14-2005, 03:40 PM

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He had T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] what do you think of his play?

Thanks boys,
Joe Tall

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I think a raise at a 6 max table with that hands sucks A$$.

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