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10-23-2005, 09:52 AM
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Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
Prima TV Broadcast Table - 8 max
Button+1 and Button+3 are sitting out. Table is pretty passive, maybe they didn't notice it's 6-handed. Hero ($99) is MP with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG folds, Hero raises to $4, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls Flop ($16): 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 checks, Hero bets $15, CO folds, SB raises to $30, BB folds, Hero calls Turn ($76): 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] SB checks, Hero pushes for $65 Comments? 
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#2
10-23-2005, 10:37 AM
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Re: Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
Here's another one. Table has become really agressive, hence the limp/rr. Button is a donk that i've seen open limp/call a raise from UTG+1 with A5o, and then calling a PSB on a K95 flop. Table is 7-handed.
I'm UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero calls, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, Button calls, blinds fold, Hero($119) raises to $8, UTG+1($139) calls, Button ($52) calls Flop ($25.50): 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero bets $20, UTG+1 calls, Button calls Turn ($85.50): 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero pushes all-in for $91.50 Thoughts?
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#3
10-23-2005, 01:34 PM
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Re: Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
First hand- eh, I guess the aggression is a good on a passive table when the scare card comes that helped your hands, I probably push there.
Second Hand- Also seems about right, given your read on the villian. YOu got your money in with the probable best hand.
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#4
10-23-2005, 01:38 PM
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Re: Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
1st hand - I hate it, you likely got called and lost
2nd hand - re-raise more preflop, rest is fine.
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#5
10-23-2005, 02:38 PM
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Re: Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
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1st hand - I hate it [/ QUOTE ] Why? [ QUOTE ] you likely got called [/ QUOTE ] Obviously, I wouldn't post the hand if he folded. [ QUOTE ] and lost [/ QUOTE ] What's calling me that I beat? That's the problem with this hand as far as I can see. I think I should have pushed the flop. [ QUOTE ] 2nd hand - re-raise more preflop, rest is fine. [/ QUOTE ] I think PF was the good part of this hand. I noticed I didn't specify the amount of the original raise - it was a minraise. So I re-raised to $8 in a $6.5 pot. Why isn't that enough? I think my turn push is the mistake here.
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#6
10-23-2005, 02:41 PM
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Re: Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
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First hand- eh, I guess the aggression is a good on a passive table when the scare card comes that helped your hands, I probably push there. [/ QUOTE ] My questions on the first hand are probably: 1) is the PF raise borderline, -EV, or just stupid? 2) do you like my flop bet? 3) what do I do after the minraise? 4) what's your line on this turn? [ QUOTE ] Second Hand- Also seems about right, given your read on the villian. YOu got your money in with the probable best hand. [/ QUOTE ] No, I didn't (results will follow). Preflop is good IMO, given the agressive table (if not plz comment). Flop bet is pretty standard (right?). I think the push after two big flop calls is pretty bad. Posting this because I think the turn is where I went wrong in this hand.
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#8
10-23-2005, 03:28 PM
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Re: Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
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Hand 1: Take the free card. Why would he fold here? [/ QUOTE ] At the time, my thinking didn't go beyond: "hey, i picked up some extra outs, now I can push for sure". I guess I was hoping that the minraise was just testing me because he suspected a continuation bet on a ragged flop. [ QUOTE ] Hand 2: Just raise pre or raise more after the raise. [/ QUOTE ] You too? I raised to $8 in a $6.50 pot. Isn't that enough? [ QUOTE ] Uh, I think you can't not push the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I really thought the turn push was the problem with this hand. What would those two be calling with on the flop that a) doesn't have me beat already, or b) didn't improve to beat me on the turn? The second I pushed the turn I thought: I'm betting into a set. I just don't see two drawing hands or smaller overpairs on this board. I don't know. That's why I'm posting this.
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#9
10-23-2005, 07:12 PM
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Re: Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
Right, it's just a shitty situation altogether. Basically I am not capable of just check-folding there. I'd rather bet into the set which will inevitably appear there once in a while as opposed to giving free cards to the more likely 2nd best hands.
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#10
10-23-2005, 07:27 PM
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Re: Shoving it in on a semibluff - $100NL
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You too? I raised to $8 in a $6.50 pot. Isn't that [/ QUOTE ] No, thats not enough. You said it yourself, the table was getting agressive, so you can raise higher. I'd raise to at least 10. First hand: I don't see why you didn't check. Your 8 pair was no good, or at least thats the way it seems. Given that, you're effectively playing off a draw, forget your 8 pair. Would you have pushed without the 8? Then why push WITH the 8? If you had top pair, then I'd make this play. I wouldn't make it with middle pair. Check behind, and then feel out the river.
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