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What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
Bull !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best hand on the flop wins nothing and worst hand wins it all. Bull !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hand History Previous Hand Next Hand Please note: You can only view your own down cards. Other players will only see your cards if they were played through to showdown. HAND DETAILS Hand Number 121729655 Start Date 2005-10-26 04:59:48 End Date 2005-10-26 05:01:20 Pot Size $ 43.83 Rake $ 0.00 Game Type Hold'Em Play Mode Real Money Table Name Blitz Structure None Table Stakes Min Bet Max Bet Antes Blinds $ 0.10 $ 0.10 $ 0.05 $ 0.10 Community Cards 3 4 7 8 3 PLAYER INFORMATION Screen Name Seat position Cards Dealt Start/End Amount Total Bet Win/Loss Amount scandler 1 7 7 $ 10.00 / $ 0.30 $ 9.90 $ -9.70 J7OWN 2 $ 4.00 / $ 3.70 $ 0.20 $ -0.30 King Arthur 3 $ 24.26 / $ 23.41 $ 0.85 $ -0.85 violater777 4 $ 39.52 / $ 39.52 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 seth_d 5 $ 14.91 / $ 14.91 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 booger3510 6 $ 6.60 / $ 5.20 $ 1.40 $ -1.40 srm80 7 3 3 $ 9.90 / $ 42.15 $ 9.90 $ 32.25 Infinest (Me) 8 6 5 $ 41.16 / $ 30.47 $ 10.69 $ -10.69 chiggity77 9 4 4 $ 10.69 / $ 1.38 $ 10.69 $ -9.31 HAND ACTIONS Player Action Action Data Time Stamp booger3510 Set dealer/Bring in spot 6 04:59:48 srm80 Ante/Small blind $ 0.05 04:59:48 Infinest Big blind/Bring in $ 0.10 04:59:48 scandler Post $ 0.10 04:59:48 J7OWN Post $ 0.10 04:59:48 scandler Card dealt to a spot 7 7 04:59:48 J7OWN Card dealt to a spot 04:59:48 King Arthur Card dealt to a spot 04:59:48 violater777 Card dealt to a spot 04:59:48 seth_d Card dealt to a spot 04:59:48 booger3510 Card dealt to a spot 04:59:48 srm80 Card dealt to a spot 3 3 04:59:48 Infinest Card dealt to a spot 6 5 04:59:48 chiggity77 Card dealt to a spot 4 4 04:59:48 chiggity77 Call $ 0.10 04:59:54 scandler Raise $ 0.20 04:59:59 J7OWN Call $ 0.20 05:00:01 King Arthur Call $ 0.30 05:00:07 violater777 Fold $ 0.00 05:00:09 seth_d Fold $ 0.00 05:00:09 booger3510 Call $ 0.30 05:00:13 srm80 Call $ 0.25 05:00:15 Infinest Call $ 0.20 05:00:16 chiggity77 Call $ 0.20 05:00:18 Betting round completed Last active pot = $2.10 05:00:18 Card dealt to table 3 4 7 05:00:18 srm80 Check 05:00:21 Infinest Check 05:00:23 chiggity77 Check 05:00:24 scandler Bet $ 0.55 05:00:33 J7OWN Fold $ 0.00 05:00:33 King Arthur Call $ 0.55 05:00:37 booger3510 Raise $ 1.10 05:00:37 srm80 All-in $ 9.60 05:00:46 Infinest All-in $ 40.86 05:00:48 chiggity77 All-in $ 10.39 05:00:59 scandler All-in $ 9.15 05:01:06 King Arthur Fold $ 0.55 05:01:06 booger3510 Fold $ 1.10 05:01:13 Infinest Return uncalled portion of bet $ 30.47 05:01:13 Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00 Side pot 7 = $42.15 Side pot 1 = $0.30 Side pot 9 = $1.38 05:01:15 Card dealt to table 8 05:01:15 Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00 Side pot 7 = $42.15 Side pot 1 = $0.30 Side pot 9 = $1.38 05:01:17 Card dealt to table 3 05:01:17 Rake amount $ 0.00 05:01:19 Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00 Side pot 7 = $42.15 Side pot 1 = $0.30 Side pot 9 = $1.38 05:01:19 Infinest Showdown Show card: Straight 8 7 6 5 4 05:01:19 chiggity77 Showdown Show card: Full House 4 4 4 3 3 05:01:19 scandler Showdown Show card: Full House 7 7 7 3 3 05:01:19 srm80 Showdown Show card: Four of a Kind 3 3 3 3 8 05:01:19 scandler Hand result $ 0.30 05:01:19 srm80 Hand result $ 42.15 05:01:19 chiggity77 Hand result $ 1.38 05:01:19 |
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Re: What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
Give me a few hours, im gonna try to figure out whats going on in the thread..
. . . ok lost interest. Seriously, if you want some advice or comments, atleast make it presentable to others. |
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Re: What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
I've seen a similar hand in a live tourney at the Trop in AC that I eventually won. 12 left in tourney, so we're playing 6-handed.
Pre-flop: UTG (which is me) has 66 and raises SB has 22 and calls BB has 33 and calls Flop comes 6-3-2 Rainbow. I bet. SB Calls. BB raises all-in. I call. SB folds & shows his trip dueces. I was pissed, because I should have taken them both out. Anyway, here's the math: The probability you flop a set is about .12 (which is about 7.2-to-1). 3 people flopping sets is (.12)(.12)(.12)=0.001728 You need 8 of the remaining 50 cards. Whichever one you get, you need 4 of the remaining 49 cards. The Probability of flopping the 2-gut straight is (8/50)(4/49)=.013 The Probability of 3 people flopping sets & a 2-gut straight is (.12)(.12)(.12)(.013)=.00002351 If you didn't notice, I'm a math teacher who just happens to teach Probability & Statistics. I'm pretty sure those numbers are correct (even though they've been rounded slightly). |
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Re: What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
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've seen a similar hand in a live tourney at the Trop in AC [/ QUOTE ] Come on, everyone knows the Trop is rigged. I bet your opponents had cashed out recently. |
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A math teacher ?
WHo happens to teach probability ?
YIKES ! * .12 cubed is not the correct answer. * If "Joe", "Bob" and "Bill" all hold pocket pairs and it is known that both Joe and Bob flop sets, the chances of Bill also flopping a set is not .12 BAYES THEOREM is at work here. If we know that "A" and "B" occured and want to know whether "C" occured, the chances are not static if we are referring to a series of DEpendent trials. - The same would hold true if the calculation was to determine the chances of both AA and KK flopping sets in the same hand. Since the chance of "B" occurring is dependent on whether or not "A" occurs they are dependent and therefore do not lend themselves to the same method as . . . If the chance of one die landing on 6 is 1:6 what are the chances that a set of two dice show 6-6 ? For anyone who doesn't get it . . . If AA, KK, QQ and JJ all see the flop, what are the chances that ALL FOUR flop a set ? Zero, right ? OK . . . * NEXT [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
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I've seen a similar hand in a live tourney at the Trop in AC that I eventually won. 12 left in tourney, so we're playing 6-handed. Pre-flop: UTG (which is me) has 66 and raises SB has 22 and calls BB has 33 and calls Flop comes 6-3-2 Rainbow. I bet. SB Calls. BB raises all-in. I call. SB folds & shows his trip dueces. I was pissed, because I should have taken them both out. Anyway, here's the math: The probability you flop a set is about .12 (which is about 7.2-to-1). 3 people flopping sets is (.12)(.12)(.12)=0.001728 You need 8 of the remaining 50 cards. Whichever one you get, you need 4 of the remaining 49 cards. The Probability of flopping the 2-gut straight is (8/50)(4/49)=.013 The Probability of 3 people flopping sets & a 2-gut straight is (.12)(.12)(.12)(.013)=.00002351 If you didn't notice, I'm a math teacher who just happens to teach Probability & Statistics. I'm pretty sure those numbers are correct (even though they've been rounded slightly). [/ QUOTE ] I could be wrong, But I think your missing the probablity of the players all being dealt pairs in the first place. It looks like your calculations already assume the four players have the nessasary hands for this to work. Dealing out 3 pair and a hand that fits a striaght between them is probably also an unlikely event. That hand history is nuts. Who makes a hand history that doesnt show suits? How are supposed to know if someone was drawing a flush or was just insane? |
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Re: What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
50:50. 50% that three people will flop sets and one a strait, and 50% that it won't happen.
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Re: What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
Ouch, my eyes exploded. Please format it better.
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Re: What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
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Ouch, my eyes exploded. Please format it better. [/ QUOTE ] I'll do it for him. ..Blah Blah, Poker is rigged, blah, blah, I got bad beat, blah, blah, I am an idiot, blah, blah... |
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Re: What are the odds on this: 3 sets and a str8 on the flop.
For the record, if this is an actual hand (and I'm not necessarily convinced that it is), this is pretty incredible. Three players flop a set and and a 4th player flops the nut straight, with one player hitting quads on the end. If you were going to rig a hand, that's about as beautiful as it gets. :-)
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