limit transition to no limit

i have been a limit player for about 2 years now, started 2/4 and currently at 15/30. most of my play is online and occasionally in casinos when i get a chance to go. when me and my buddies get together we play 1/2 to 2/5 NL.
being that i am so used to limit hold em, i have a hard time adjusting to NL. to me, play is so different. every street is so difficult to make a decision on. limit is just much more mechanical than NL. im sure this subject has been discussed here before, but i just want to see if anyone can offer any comments or advice as to how i can adjust to NL. thanks

NL is much easier than limit.

[dogmeat]

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NL is much easier than limit.

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Everybody has their own opinion - mine differs greatly from this.

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i am assuming that you are playing against average to bad players. i think that nl is easier to start making decent money at. limit takes a lot more faith that you are doing the right thing every time you make a decision, because the losing streaks can be much longer.

in nl, it is easier to control the number of players that are in the pot, and who is in the pot. however, there are also an infinite number of ways to play a hand in nl, many of which can be correct. usually in limit, only 1 or 2 plays are correct. they are both tough to become great at, but i think nl is easier to become a winning player at the low levels. i didn't start playing nl til i had already played limit for a year, so that might have helped me get decent at nl fairly quckly. i definitely believe that you can make more in nl with the same bankroll, which is why i prefer to play nl.

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NL is much easier than limit.

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NL against bad players is much easier than Limit against bad players.

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NL is much easier than limit.

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That, sir, is assinine. They are two similar games with different strategies. Some people excel at one while others excel at the other. Some people can play one very well, and suck at the other. To say one is easier than the other is way off the mark. I disagree with you, sir.

A high winrate at low limit to mid limit hold'em is generally agreed upon to be 3-4BB/100. The accepted ceiling we will say is 4BB/100. In NL, at the corresponding levels, 8-12PTBB/100 is a good winrate with really good players being able to hammer out 15-18PTBB/100 in the lowest games. We will use the ceiling to be 18PTBB/100 for NL.

I grab one million people at random. I have half of them play NL ring and half play limit ring. I believe I will have a much higher percentage of people beating the NL games for a "good" rate (~8PTBB/100) than you will have people beating limit for a "good" rate (~3BB/100).

Do people disagree with this?

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PTBB?

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PTBB?

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A PTBB is 2x the big blind in a NL cash game. In limit, the big blind is 1/2 the big bet which is the unit used to describe the winrate for limit cash games.

The mere fact that a knowledgeable player can make more money playing NL as opposed to limit does not mean NL is easier. It's because of the structure of the game. You cannot trap a man for all his chips in limit. In limit you do not get punished as much for your mistakes. Don't forget, in NL the suckouts usually cost you a lot more than in limit. Your argument has no validity.