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Old 08-10-2005, 05:21 AM
Blackdirt12 Blackdirt12 is offline
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

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Being bitter wasn't part of the equasion.

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The theory behind an election is that every citizen has a vote and together as a whole the result of that vote dictates the actions of the electoral college. During the 2000 election tens of thousands of Florida residents were not allowed to cast their ballots. Gore lost by less then six hundred votes in the state of Florida. The twenty five electoral votes that Gore did not recieve was the reason he lost the 2000 election. The people that were not allowed to vote were mostly african americans registered as democrats. Florida contracted a private company DBT to determine which citizens were allowed to vote.

At the time, Florida was the only state that hired a private company to do this. DBT then removed over twenty thousand registered voters inside the state of Florida and illegally barred them from voting.

Now felons are not allowed to vote. DBT took a national database of felons from across the country, and compared their surnames to the registered voters within Florida, and if there was a match, that law abiding citizen who had done nothing wrong WAS BARRED FROM VOTING.
So you may be Mr. Langston FishHooks of Dade County, Florida, but there is a Mr. Sonny FishHooks of Grand County, Oklahoma, who committed a double homicide back in 88, well, he's not allowed to vote. Thanks to DBT, you wouldn't be allowed to vote either because they classified you as the same person.

Now this really happened. Most of the people that were barred were African Americans. The news here didn't talk about it and Michael Moore glossed over it in Fareinheit 9/11. The NAACP, however, sued the state of Florida over this blatent violation of the constitution and won...
Am I bitter? I am not bitter. Bush is still the president. Chaney still runs the white house. I am far from bitter...Bitter is something you label a man who doesn't trust a network newscast and doesn't believe that foxnews is "fair and balanced", bitter is what you label someone who wasn't stupid enough to believe that Bush honestly thought that there were WMD's in Iraq, or that Saddam was linked to Al Quida...Bitter is logic to you.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:31 PM
FishHooks FishHooks is offline
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

You have been brainwashed by propaganda. He actually used something Michael Moore said in his defence, heh nice one.

I dont have a problem with FELONS not allowed to vote. Voting is a privilege not a right.

When you say they did this whole surname thing, if thats true that is wrong, but what's to say it barred more democrats then republicans from voting.

With the whole African American thing, can you show me some stats on this?

Saddam was linked to Al Queda, read the 9/11 commission report.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

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Saddam was linked to Al Queda, read the 9/11 commission report.

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Good idea.

I especially like p. 352 paragraph 4:

Responding to a presidential tasking, Clarke’s office sent a memo to Rice
on September 18, titled “Survey of Intelligence Information on Any Iraq
Involvement in the September 11 Attacks.” Rice’s chief staffer on Afghanistan,
Zalmay Khalilzad, concurred in its conclusion that only some anecdotal evidence
linked Iraq to al Qaeda.The memo found no “compelling case” that Iraq
had either planned or perpetrated the attacks. It passed along a few foreign
intelligence reports, including the Czech report alleging an April 2001 Prague
meeting between Atta and an Iraqi intelligence officer (discussed in chapter 7)
and a Polish report that personnel at the headquarters of Iraqi intelligence in
Baghdad were told before September 11 to go on the streets to gauge crowd
reaction to an unspecified event.Arguing that the case for links between Iraq
and al Qaeda was weak, the memo pointed out that Bin Ladin resented the
secularism of Saddam Hussein’s regime. Finally, the memo said, there was no
confirmed reporting on Saddam cooperating with Bin Ladin on unconventional
weapons.

Page 84, paragraph 3 is pretty good, too.

But to date we have seen no evidence that these or the earlier
contacts ever developed into a collaborative operational relationship. Nor
have we seen evidence indicating that Iraq cooperated with al Qaeda in developing
or carrying out any attacks against the United States.


Damned liberal 9/11 Commission report. It looks like they've been brainwashed by propaganda, too.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:38 PM
FishHooks FishHooks is offline
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Apparently you didn't even udnerstand the question or statement.

"Saddam was linked to Al Queda"

Your talking about Saddam being liked to 9/11, which has nothing to with what were talking about, but it's ok I expected that. Saddam did have connections to Al Queda, but not to the 9/11 attacks.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

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Apparently you didn't even udnerstand the question or statement.

"Saddam was linked to Al Queda"

Your talking about Saddam being liked to 9/11, which has nothing to with what were talking about, but it's ok I expected that. Saddam did have connections to Al Queda, but not to the 9/11 attacks.

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See, I don't ALWAYS disagree with you. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:44 PM
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Glad we agree on something.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

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Apparently you didn't even udnerstand the question or statement.

"Saddam was linked to Al Queda"

Your talking about Saddam being liked to 9/11, which has nothing to with what were talking about, but it's ok I expected that. Saddam did have connections to Al Queda, but not to the 9/11 attacks.

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Ok, where in the 9/11 commission report does it say that they were linked?

[Edit] I was pretty sure this quote touched all the bases, not just 9/11.

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But to date we have seen no evidence that these or the earlier
contacts ever developed into a collaborative operational relationship.

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Old 08-10-2005, 03:01 PM
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I dont remember what page it was on in the commission report, but I'll try to find it.
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Old 08-10-2005, 08:07 PM
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I dont remember what page it was on in the commission report, but I'll try to find it.

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There are 22 specific mentions of Saddam Hussein in the 9/11 commission report, and I can't find anything that shows anything more than nominal ties between the two.

I'm not saying you are wrong but I do think you need to back up your assertion with some evidence.
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:40 PM
Blackdirt12 Blackdirt12 is offline
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Default Re: Hey, Democrats! Want to win an election? Try this :

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You have been brainwashed by propaganda. He actually used something Michael Moore said in his defence, heh nice one.

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I mentioned that Michael Moore glossed over it. What I mean by that is that he barely touched on it. By barely touched on it I mean he didn't really go into it.

D-E-F-E-N-S-E.

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I dont have a problem with FELONS not allowed to vote. Voting is a privilege not a right.

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I never complained about felons not being allowed to vote. I used what I thought was a very clear example to illustrate that people who had never commiitted a serious crime were being wrongfully banned from voting.

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When you say they did this whole surname thing, if thats true that is wrong, but what's to say it barred more democrats then republicans from voting.

With the whole African American thing, can you show me some stats on this?

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The prisons aren't full of white folk.

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Saddam was linked to Al Queda, read the 9/11 commission report.

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Oh yeah, I forgot. That's right after the part where they present that evidence of WMD's...have they turned up yet?

Downing St. memo
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