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  #61  
Old 11-02-2005, 09:34 PM
3rdCheckRaise 3rdCheckRaise is offline
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Very well put Astro...Moderator should reduce himself back to a valuable poster insted of a useless admin...
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:47 PM
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Can you plz clarify something....he bet/called the river with A4 high?
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:11 PM
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I take it DERB was in position, the turn was checked through and he called MP's river bet.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:13 PM
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Just within the past week or two, he clicked the "hide me from search" box, so any focussed datamining of him is going be difficult. He also plays a lot in the early morning (Eastern Time) hours.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:16 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Can you plz clarify something....he bet/called the river with A4 high?

[/ QUOTE ]he was in pos... it went betcall... action in my post is correct... yes, they both played horrible.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: DERB

For whoever asked for DERB hands. I have 75 with him, here are his showdown hands, some interesting some not.

DERB SB

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks.

Turn: (1 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 7 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ad Kh (one pair, kings).
BB has Ks 3d (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins 7 BB. </font>

DERB CO

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (10.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has 9c Ah (one pair, threes).
Button has Qs Kh (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: Button wins 12.75 BB. </font>

DERB villain

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (3.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has As 6s (one pair, kings).
Hero has Qs Td (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 5.25 BB. </font>

DERB Button

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (26.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

everyone checks.

Final Pot: 26.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB doesn't show.
UTG+1 has 6d 7d (two pair, sixes and fours).
MP3 has 8c 8d (two pair, eights and fours).
Button has Kh Ks (two pair, kings and fours).
Outcome: Button wins 26.50 BB. </font>

DERB button

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

everyone checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has Jc Ad (high card, ace).
Button has 8s Ks (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Button wins 7.75 BB. </font>

DERB BB

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 3h 3d (two pair, aces and threes).
BB has Jc Qd (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: BB wins 7.50 BB. </font>

DERB UTG

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (10.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 8c Qc (straight, nine high).
MP2 has Jd Jh (flush, queen high).
Outcome: MP2 wins 12.75 BB. </font>

DERB BB

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks.

River: (5.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 9h 7h (flush, ace high).
CO has Ks Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins 7.25 BB. </font>
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: DERB

In the 5k hands I have on him he is stuck 2.8 BB/100.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: DERB

thanks for the hands gambler. are we to assume that when the river action is blank, that it went check-check? those hands to me show good postflop abilities combined with pre-flop looseness in multi-way pots. A9o UTG raise is the only totaly reckless move i saw.

three-betting the QJ hand was the most interesting preflop move to me, as i would just call there. i wouldn't have ever seen the turn, but he won a nice pot.

first KK hand is both wild and conservative protecting of the hand at the same time.

nigel said derb has a good preflop foundation and that it is bet-bet, raise-raise after that. well, how different of a style is that from what any solid winner is doing? the difference is that derb does it so much that he has some camoflauge for his good hands. the A6o hand against gambler's QT shows derb is aware of his image, and sometimes over-responds to it.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: DERB

[ QUOTE ]
A9o UTG raise is the only totaly reckless move i saw.

[/ QUOTE ]

DERB actually raised Q8s utg A9o was gambler's hand.

[ QUOTE ]
KK hand is both wild and conservative protecting of the hand at the same time.

[/ QUOTE ]

DERB had 97s and the flush draw this hand, KK was opponents hand. Edit: Disregard this, I was referencing the wrong KK hand.

Just wanted to clear those things up to avoid later confusion. I dont really see much postflop wildness in DERB's play of these hands, infact I like almost every play (besides Q8s on the flop, seems to be overkill but maybe not with his image...?).

-Brad
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:01 PM
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Default More Derb Hands

UTG+2 - Derb

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Preflop:
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB.
Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+2 has As Ah (a pair of aces.)
UTG+1 has Kd Kc (a pair of kings.)

UTG+2 wins 11.73 BB.
</font>

MP2 - Derb

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Preflop:
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, UTG calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB.
Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Td Kd (two pairs, kings and tens.)
MP2 has 6c 6h (three of a kind, sixes.)
MP2 wins 11.73 BB.
</font>

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MP3 - Derb, BB Ramabird
Preflop:
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB.
Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
MP3 has Jd Jh (two pairs, jacks and nines.)
BB has 6h 7h (two pairs, nines and sixes.)
MP3 wins 10.23 BB.
</font>

BB - Derb

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Preflop:
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB.
Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 3c 4d (a pair of threes.)
UTG+2 has Ad 9s (high card ace.)
BB wins 9.72 BB.
</font>

Button - Derb

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Preflop:
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP1 calls.

River: (8.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB.
Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
Button has Ks Qh (a straight, ten to ace.)
MP1 has Ad Kc (two pairs, aces and kings.)
Button wins 10.23 BB.
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