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Old 10-08-2005, 01:14 AM
tpir90036 tpir90036 is offline
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$100/200 folded to me I complete. Renaud (from 2p2) checks.

I have a 17% flops seen on this table (6 handed) and he has probably noticed I'm playing extremely tight. My only other notable prior history is going way too many bets on the flop with a gutshot vs him and hitting (yesterday), so that may still be in the back of his mind with regards to what he thinks of my play.

Flop 743. I bet, he calls. Turn ace, I check, he checks. River 9. I bet. Good?

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I concede that I do not understand the river. Is he calling with K-high? Wouldn't you be better off inducing a bluff by checking twice?
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:16 AM
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since I prefer playing in small pots when OOP

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I prefer the opposite, since position gives you information, and small pots are all about information.

Could you explain your opinion here pls?

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When the pot is small with few opponents being out of position can be the best position of all. Lets say one person limps in and your in the SB with XX and you call and the BB checks. If the flop comes out K72ish or 992, you will have the first chance to bluff at it. There are many flops where the winner will usually be the first person who puts money in the pot. So by being first to act you have the best chance to take down the pot on many flops, this can be a great advantage against the right opponents. Since bluffs usually work the best in small pots with few opponents, being out of position can be a great advantage. This is one reason that a player might prefer to be oop in small pots.
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:19 AM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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Hmmmmm... He had 45 and called?
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:34 AM
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When the pot is small with few opponents being out of position can be the best position of all. Lets say one person limps in and your in the SB with XX and you call and the BB checks. If the flop comes out K72ish or 992, you will have the first chance to bluff at it. There are many flops where the winner will usually be the first person who puts money in the pot. So by being first to act you have the best chance to take down the pot on many flops, this can be a great advantage against the right opponents. Since bluffs usually work the best in small pots with few opponents, being out of position can be a great advantage. This is one reason that a player might prefer to be oop in small pots.

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Of course, but this has pretty much zero application in the SB against a tough player who will be bluffraising and calling to bluff your flop bets at goodish frequency.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:01 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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since I prefer playing in small pots when OOP

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I prefer the opposite, since position gives you information, and small pots are all about information.

Could you explain your opinion here pls?

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note the wording of his words.

its not "i prefer to play small pots out of position position"

it's " i prefer to play in small pots WHEN out of position."
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:02 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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i'd just like to point out that too many people are concerned over giving free cards in a 2bb pot.
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Old 10-08-2005, 12:58 PM
Renaud Desferet Renaud Desferet is offline
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Hmmmmm....good read, sir, you should play more.
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Old 10-08-2005, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: K4o SB HU

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since I prefer playing in small pots when OOP

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I prefer the opposite, since position gives you information, and small pots are all about information.

Could you explain your opinion here pls?

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note the wording of his words.

its not "i prefer to play small pots out of position position"

it's " i prefer to play in small pots WHEN out of position."

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I do believe they amount to the same thing, since the things I wish not for me I wish for my opponent.
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Old 10-08-2005, 01:40 PM
DrSavage DrSavage is offline
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I like turn check a lot.
I think river should be a check also though.
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