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Old 09-09-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default AKo improves on river....raise?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>

villain is loose and semi-aggressive

I didn't see much of a reason to raise this flop.

I raise this turn a lot here as the last bet going in pot UI; however, I thought I would show this hand down and didn't feel like putting more in than I had to.

When the ace hits and he bets, I always think...."hhmmm...he doesn't care."

How many raise here?

Anyone play the hand different in general?
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:37 AM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

I would raise.
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

I used to play this hand the way you did. Lately I've been folding the turn.

Probably the reason why he doesn't care about the river is that he's on a pure bluff. He might pay you off with ace high, but I'd just call the river.
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

count me in for a raise. i don't think its a "he doesn't care" scenario as much as a "hoping his 9 or PP is still good" scenario. if the flush was not bd i would maybe just call if he is the type to bet his draws.
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

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I used to play this hand the way you did. Lately I've been folding the turn.

Probably the reason why he doesn't care about the river is that he's on a pure bluff. He might pay you off with ace high, but I'd just call the river.

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I also fold the turn in these situations. You're getting 6.5 to 1 on a 6.6 to 1 shot. Sure your hand might be best, but are you going to call the river UI with AK high?
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

Either fold the turn or raise the river - if you aren't planning on the raising when you hit, then you don't have sufficient odds to call the turn.
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

Reads?

River:
If he's a LAG/donk, I raise and expect to get paid off by K9 or whatever.
If he's average, I just call the river.
If he's good, I never make it to the river (fold the turn UI).


Tom
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

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I used to play this hand the way you did. Lately I've been folding the turn.

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That's folding the best hand against a laggy player way too often. There are also times when he'll just check the river too...not many, but it needs to be considered.
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

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if the flush was not bd i would maybe just call if he is the type to bet his draws.


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Those are my thoughts.

Now...how do you feel about a 3 bet response?
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: AKo improves on river....raise?

I call a 3bet and brace myself for A9.
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