Gutshot + Overcard + Flush Draw... Thoughts?

[shabamgoddam]

my first inclination was i wouldn't have called a flop bet w/ just 1 over & bdfd/gutshot. however once the A hits on the turn it would seem you are good mp2 seems like he has a 7, def. not a stronger A, and maybe somekind of draw, mp3 is calling along w/ his draw. i doubt you needed the str8 on the river to win this one.
i would've folded this one pf in ep. you're hopin' to hit your flush not your A w/ these kinda hands. call from lp against multiple limpers.

[Shillx]

Just go ahead and bet the flop.

[Aaron W.]

Preflop is fine. Those complaining about the limp should pay attention to the fact that there are still 5 players left to act after Hero and that he's likely going to get at least one or two more in the pot with him (not including the blinds), making the limp perfectly acceptable.

The check-raise would be better if there were *NO* callers in between you and the bettor, AND the bettor is somewhat weak-aggressive postflop (meaning he'll bet in position, but folds easily if pushed back). There's something of an argument to be made about cleaning up ace outs, but I'm not quite sold that it's correct here since there's already a player trapped and the pot isn't that large (note that you don't chop with another ace very often with this board). As it stands, check-calling is probably a little better.

[jaxUp]

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Preflop is fine. Those complaining about the limp should pay attention to the fact that there are still 5 players left to act after Hero and that he's likely going to get at least one or two more in the pot with him (not including the blinds), making the limp perfectly acceptable.


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Thank you. This play is routine for me here at a decent table.

[midwestkc]

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Preflop is fine. Those complaining about the limp should pay attention to the fact that there are still 5 players left to act after Hero and that he's likely going to get at least one or two more in the pot with him (not including the blinds), making the limp perfectly acceptable.

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All the people to act after him is the reason to fold...what if someone raises? what if there is a raise and the blinds call? Too many problems can come from that.

[jaxUp]

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Preflop is fine. Those complaining about the limp should pay attention to the fact that there are still 5 players left to act after Hero and that he's likely going to get at least one or two more in the pot with him (not including the blinds), making the limp perfectly acceptable.

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All the people to act after him is the reason to fold...what if someone raises? what if there is a raise and the blinds call? Too many problems can come from that.

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If you have decent table selection, it won't be raised that often, and even if it is, there should be enough callers to make it profitable. This is (apparently) a slightly +EV situation that a lot of people miss out on.

[Fryguy]

If you know what you are doing, suited aces are fine, as long as you are first in. There's a bunch of hands that are very very close to 0 EV, and whether we choose to play them or not is a matter of style. With the competition at this level being so retarded, it's pretty easy to just outplay people and turn these marginal hands into +EV.

If you don't like playing suited aces in early position, don't play them. Nothing wrong with it either way.

BTW, I think I check/call this flop. Out of position and a weak draw isn't too enticing. It also allows us to possibly check-raise the turn if the situation is right (who bet the flop, which out do we hit, etc). I think check/raising without a strong hand is almost always wrong against a lot of players.