I get schooled.....but i don't think I played too badly

[me454555]

Opponent is a tough 2+2er. He knows me and I know him. We have played together quite often and he knows my game pretty well. He is capable of making folds against me if he thinks he's beat. He also knows that I like to steal off him b/c he is tight.

1) What do you think of my play?
2) What do hand do you put him on? How many outs do you think I have once I'm 3 bet on the turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB <font color="#A500AF">(2+2er)/ 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">2+2er bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">2+2er bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">2+2er 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">2+2er bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

I'll post my opponents hand later so you can comment on his play. I thought it was very interesting from both sides of this hand.

[BWebb]

I'd probably fold to the turn 3-bet. However, I haven't been playing any lately and I can't seem to get out of the OOT forum.

[wrto4556]

Hero has odds to see the river.

If you think he'll fold enough that's OK. The pot's pretty small, he may give it up.

Maybe I don't have the balls, but I wouldn't have tried it.

[CallMeIshmael]

Have you thought about capping preflop?

Against a thinking player, I might. You have position, and he certainly has a very large 3-betting range here.

You have to call the flop.

How often does the turn raise work? Does he fold JJ? KT? Another KQ? What do you think?

At the odds you're getting, I think you need to call the turn raise.

Outs: Well, 3 for the nuts. Like 0.9 for the Td. I'm not sure with the Ks and Qs, because you seem to think he would 3-bet lightly here. Maybe 0.5 in total for the Ks and Qs?

[Chris Dow]

I will occasionally take this exact same line vs a thinking opponent. Will a 4 bet preflop help you here? As far as the turn goes I'm close between calling and folding. Depends on if I think I can definitely get two out of him when the jack pops and whether or not making a pair helps me at all.

[mannika]

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I'd probably fold to the turn 3-bet. However, I haven't been playing any lately and I can't seem to get out of the OOT forum.

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The turn call is thin, but I think it is good enough to draw at your 4 remaining outs (jacks). You should have pot odds assuming you can get 2 bets from 2+2er on the river, and that the chances of him having Axd aren't huge.

[wrto4556]

I don't know if hero has the odds to smooth call the turn getting 5.5-1. You have 3 clean jacks, .5 for the J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], and 1 or 2 for the K's and Q's. I just don't like it. Raising gives the added benifit of taking the pot unimproved, but i'm not sure it will compinsate for the size of the pot.

[mr pink]

hence the schooling [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Chris Dow]

He's not playing to smooth call the turn when he calls the flop, doing so is weak calling station bad.

[me454555]

No we didnt have the same hand