peterchi = aggro fish? (A6o in BB)

aLOWdAkING · #1 12-28-2005, 06:06 AM

Yeah I agree with the 3-bet/fold and bet/fold lines.

BTW, is raising preflop horribly bad? Suited is easy raise?

#2 12-28-2005, 06:22 AM

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BTW, is raising preflop horribly bad? Suited is easy raise?

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I raise this suited. I think it changes the SB's mind about completing enough of the time, and you're ahead of the UTG limper enough of the time(ignoring flop aggression..this is pre), to make it profitable.

There's a chance he limped a medium PP and you're way behind. I just dont see a 9 here, unless A9o maybe? I 3-bet this flop for information, and fold to the raise. If he just calls, lead turn.

peterchi · #3 12-28-2005, 09:35 AM

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BTW, is raising preflop horribly bad? Suited is easy raise?

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I'm not sure, but I wouldn't want to raise pre-flop with two people already in. I think I'd be more likely to raise if I was the button with 1 limper, but even then I wouldn't be thrilled if I thought there was a reasonable chance that either blind would defend.

Suited becomes a different story, yeah. But from the BB with two limpers it's still not an auto-raise for me... should it be? I mix that up.

#4 12-28-2005, 09:46 AM

I don't raise this pre-flop either. Weak aces out of position 3 way are trouble, mainly due to reverse implied odds. You likely won't get ation if you hit your hand, and if you miss you end up betting into an inflated 3-way pot with just A high. You might get to take it down sometimes on raggy K x x type boards, but I don't think these are enough to justify the PFR. This is one o those instances when giving up a bit of equity pre-flop is worth it in my opinion.

imported_leader · #5 12-28-2005, 02:14 PM

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BTW, is raising preflop horribly bad? Suited is easy raise?

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I don't do either. Though I could see the case for mixing in a raise with A6s sometimes in the right spots.

FishNChips · #6 12-28-2005, 02:35 PM

I'm learning as well so I'm more asking than stating:

what is a blank on the turn? 5/4/3/2? Anything else doesn't give warm fuzzies given villains wide preflop range.

what about c/r in this spot? Are you more likely to get someone to fold 2 overs with a c/r here. If you get 3-bet you can fold given villains 0.91 aggr. number.

~FishNChips

peterchi · #7 12-28-2005, 02:41 PM

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I'm learning as well so I'm more asking than stating:

what is a blank on the turn? 5/4/3/2? Anything else doesn't give warm fuzzies given villains wide preflop range.

what about c/r in this spot? Are you more likely to get someone to fold 2 overs with a c/r here. If you get 3-bet you can fold given villains 0.91 aggr. number.

~FishNChips

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That's a good point, I guess there aren't a whole lot of blanks on this board. Even a 5 isn't so good because he could easily have 78. I think I'd rather see a J.

I didn't want to go for a c/r because UTG was too passive to bet if he missed, and I didn't want to give free cards. Granted there's no need to really care too much about this pot, but I still figured my pair was worth a value-bet.

imported_leader · #8 12-28-2005, 02:45 PM

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I'm learning as well so I'm more asking than stating:

what is a blank on the turn? 5/4/3/2? Anything else doesn't give warm fuzzies given villains wide preflop range.

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Pretty much anything that's not a K or a Q. J and T aren't great either.

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what about c/r in this spot? Are you more likely to get someone to fold 2 overs with a c/r here. If you get 3-bet you can fold given villains 0.91 aggr. number.

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I don't think he'll fold so I'd rather let him bluff at it and save a bet when I'm behind some donkishly played PP.