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Old 12-08-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

I really didn't know how to play this.

***** Hand History for Game 3166960136 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:18105754 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, December 08, 18:39:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 67097 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: campingboy ( $675 )
Seat 2: J_DAKOTA_W ( $855 )
Seat 3: samgeo ( $2225 )
Seat 4: LuckeeFin ( $825 )
Seat 5: Ringo_Mojo ( $240 )
Seat 6: badcards30 ( $955 )
Seat 7: bosoxgek ( $795 )
Seat 9: Zbeldino ( $745 )
Seat 10: satchle ( $685 )
Trny:18105754 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Zbeldino [ Th Ts ]
LuckeeFin calls [30].
Ringo_Mojo folds.
badcards30 folds.
bosoxgek folds.
Zbeldino calls [30].
satchle calls [30].
campingboy folds.
J_DAKOTA_W folds.
samgeo checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 7s, 8s ]
samgeo checks.
LuckeeFin checks.
Zbeldino bets [100].
satchle raises [300].
samgeo folds.
LuckeeFin folds.
>You have options at Table 66873 Table!.
Your time bank will be activated in 5 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Zbeldino will be using his time bank for this hand.
>You have options at Table 67641 Table!.
Zbeldino folds.
satchle does not show cards.
satchle wins 535 chips
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

oo oo, i know how


slide the slidey bar to its rightmost point, then click the yellow button on the right.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

is that the generally accepted play or is it close at all?
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

I personnally would have raised to isolate the limper and take control of the hand.

As for the flop...I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

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I really didn't know how to play this.

***** Hand History for Game 3166960136 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:18105754 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, December 08, 18:39:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 67097 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: campingboy ( $675 )
Seat 2: J_DAKOTA_W ( $855 )
Seat 3: samgeo ( $2225 )
Seat 4: LuckeeFin ( $825 )
Seat 5: Ringo_Mojo ( $240 )
Seat 6: badcards30 ( $955 )
Seat 7: bosoxgek ( $795 )
Seat 9: Zbeldino ( $745 )
Seat 10: satchle ( $685 )
Trny:18105754 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Zbeldino [ Th Ts ]
LuckeeFin calls [30].
Ringo_Mojo folds.
badcards30 folds.
bosoxgek folds.
Zbeldino calls [30].
satchle calls [30].
campingboy folds.
J_DAKOTA_W folds.
samgeo checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 7s, 8s ]
samgeo checks.
LuckeeFin checks.
Zbeldino bets [100].
satchle raises [300].
samgeo folds.
LuckeeFin folds.
>You have options at Table 66873 Table!.
Your time bank will be activated in 5 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Zbeldino will be using his time bank for this hand.
>You have options at Table 67641 Table!.
Zbeldino folds.
satchle does not show cards.
satchle wins 535 chips

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I don't know what to do either, and I thought I knew everything [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I hate this spot. I want to call, but there's not enough room in my stack.

Who knows. I'm going to say fold, and everyone else is going to say push [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:54 PM
mlagoo mlagoo is offline
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Default Re: (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

the thing about a draw heavy board is that it means not only are you ahead of one pair hands like A8, etc., you are also ahead of a bunch of hands people like to semibluff these boards with (two spades, any 9, etc.), and, if you are against a made hand, you have draws to a stronger hand (any 9, possible a T). this is a great spot to get all your chips in on the flop.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

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the thing about a draw heavy board is that it means not only are you ahead of one pair hands like A8, etc., you are also ahead of a bunch of hands people like to semibluff these boards with (two spades, any 9, etc.), and, if you are against a made hand, you have draws to a stronger hand (any 9, possible a T). this is a great spot to get all your chips in on the flop.

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A GREAT spot? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Your outs are shaky, and shorty just put in a little over half his stack. You gotta be at least a little worried here.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:00 PM
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the thing about a draw heavy board is that it means not only are you ahead of one pair hands like A8, etc., you are also ahead of a bunch of hands people like to semibluff these boards with (two spades, any 9, etc.), and, if you are against a made hand, you have draws to a stronger hand (any 9, possible a T). this is a great spot to get all your chips in on the flop.

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A GREAT spot? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Your outs are shaky, and shorty just put in a little over half his stack. You gotta be at least a little worried here.

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its a 22. shorty has no idea that what he put in is half his stack. hes just betting because he saw chris moneymaker do it on TV. i think youre reading way too much into this.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

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the thing about a draw heavy board is that it means not only are you ahead of one pair hands like A8, etc., you are also ahead of a bunch of hands people like to semibluff these boards with (two spades, any 9, etc.), and, if you are against a made hand, you have draws to a stronger hand (any 9, possible a T). this is a great spot to get all your chips in on the flop.

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A GREAT spot? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Your outs are shaky, and shorty just put in a little over half his stack. You gotta be at least a little worried here.

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its a 22. shorty has no idea that what he put in is half his stack. hes just betting because he saw chris moneymaker do it on TV. i think youre reading way too much into this.

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Could be. Donk would usually just hit the Raise button, I think.

Anyway, your points are valid, and I can't really argue against a push.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: (22) overpair on a very draw heavy board

Why does hero just call preflop? How about a raise to 120?
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