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Old 05-19-2005, 02:07 AM
BigBaitsim (milo) BigBaitsim (milo) is offline
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Default Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

Spurred on by the RFID discussion, I gotta say, I feel safer on a casino floor than almost anywhere else. I routinely leave over a thousand dollars on a table, go take a dump (wash hands), have a snack, and wander back to the table. Sure, there is no privacy in a casino, but so what? Don't commit a crime, and it will never matter. Falsely accused? Never again. Just go to the tape.

RFID in people would mean robbing any store would be -EV, since you are likely to get caught. Criminals removing RFID? Sure, but this is a crime as well, and scanners can easily be set up to call the police if a person doesn't scan.

Orwellian nightmare? Not really. Could someone use data against you? Yes. How could you stop them? Don't be bad.

Could RFID be forged, cracked or abused, of course it could. But give the technology time. Eventually we'll all be chipped and our great-grandkids will wonder what the big hullabaloo was all about, as they go about their much safer world.
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Old 05-19-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

I don't know why this is in B&M forum. I don't care if people want me to carry a nametag with RFID in the casino. But in the real world? Forget it. Sure, Uncle Sam can solve crimes a lot more easily - but he can also more or less control the lives of anyone he wants. Putting so much power in the hands of the government is suicide if you ask me. Honestly if this started happening I would leave the country (and that's not something I threaten to do after every election or policy decision that doesn't go my way.)

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Old 05-19-2005, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

I think they should put RFID's (or satellite tracking equivalent) on all of our troops/contractors in Iraq (and remove them when they come back home). When kidnapped, we will be able to find them awfully fast, along with the bad guys.
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Old 05-19-2005, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

I also feel safe in a casino but I am not scared to go about in public places.

I know eventually everyone will have a chip, but I think it is a terrible idea. It will start with putting the chips in children so they can be found when abducted. Once all the children are chipped at birth, then it is just a matter of time until us old guys die off and then we will have a Brave New World.

They already put chips in pets to help find them when they are lost and show up at the pound. So we only need a few more high profile abductions before people decide it is a good idea to chip their children for safety.

Once all the children have chips, We won't need to watch them or actually bother to be a parent, we can just let them run wild and grow up like weeds, it will be much more convenient.
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

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I think they should put RFID's (or satellite tracking equivalent) on all of our troops/contractors in Iraq (and remove them when they come back home). When kidnapped, we will be able to find them awfully fast, along with the bad guys.

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An RFID's effective range is only a few feet. You would be findin nobody.
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Old 05-19-2005, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

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I think they should put RFID's (or satellite tracking equivalent) on all of our troops/contractors in Iraq (and remove them when they come back home). When kidnapped, we will be able to find them awfully fast, along with the bad guys.

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An RFID's effective range is only a few feet. You would be findin nobody.

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Old 05-19-2005, 11:24 AM
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Orwellian nightmare? Not really. Could someone use data against you? Yes. How could you stop them? Don't be bad.

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That's assuming you will always agree with the gov't's definition of 'bad.' All it would take is one law restricting your freedom and the whole situation becomes doubleplus ungood.


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Old 05-19-2005, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

as a Canadian i've been following the RFID controversy with interest. it is quite sad that the RFID bill got lumped into a bill that was badly needed for the US troops.

personally I don't think it's worth the loss of privacy, if you let the government legislate this act which violates privacy, what's to stop them from going one step further? then another, and another? bad idea.
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

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An RFID's effective range is only a few feet. You would be findin nobody.

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Active RFID can go up to 300 feet depending on how much you want to pay for the battery source etc.

Talk in this thread about using it in real life is a bit out of place. The fact that you had a RFID in your body (which the FDA did approve for medical purposes such as knowing your blood type and general basic information) does not mean that the government "would" track you. They "could" but highly unlikely everywhere. The readers are very expensive and you would need them all over the place. Seeing them in every store is gonna be a long ways off.
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Cameras everywhere & RFID in people: No privacy? So what?

We already know where the bad guys are.

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