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Old 09-21-2005, 06:55 AM
wrto4556 wrto4556 is offline
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$15-30 at the Bellagio.

UTG is pretty good from what Ive seen. MP1 is really loose passive. CO is too loose also but not as bad (30%vpip id guess). Button thinks hes good but hes not.

I get two black tens in MP2.

UTG raises, MP1 calls, I 3-bet, CO reluctantly calls telling me hes got a good hand, too, Button throws the chips in like its his job, UTG 4-bets and everyone calls.

(20sb) Flop is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG bets, MP1 calls, I call, CO calls, Button calls.

(12BB) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG bets, MP1 calls, I?
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: TT in a giant pot

What's the turn card?
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:00 AM
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What's the turn card?

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I fixed it. It was the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: TT in a giant pot

I kind of think raising is a bad option because if we get 3-bet we most likely have to call for our 2 outter. It seems like we would get 3-bet often with the board and preflop action. But I cant fold, can i? How bad is calling?
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: TT in a giant pot

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UTG is pretty good from what Ive seen.

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It's hard to see him leading two streets with something you beat, but I'd hate to fold in this insane pot. I'm not raising. I'm probably not folding, but it might be right.

So, I think calling down is okay.

Tough hand. I hope someone else can say something more intelligent.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:34 AM
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UTG is pretty good from what Ive seen.

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It's hard to see him leading two streets with something you beat,

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I agree with this, but at the same time... if UTG was that good, wouldn't he have been smarter for a check-raise with a good hand? I mean, with a single bet, he's giving everyone the correct pot odds to call these bets with nothing who might very well draw out on him. I could see this line if he flopped quad 5s and wants callers, but then the pre-flop action doesn't make sense.

I'd call down as well, I guess.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:37 AM
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UTG is pretty good from what Ive seen.

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It's hard to see him leading two streets with something you beat,

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I agree with this, but at the same time... if UTG was that good, wouldn't he have been smarter for a check-raise with a good hand? I mean, with a single bet, he's giving everyone the correct pot odds to call these bets with nothing who might very well draw out on him. I could see this line if he flopped quad 5s and wants callers, but then the pre-flop action doesn't make sense.

I'd call down as well, I guess.

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Whats wrong with betting the best hand? Especially when you don't know where a bet is going to come from anyways?
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:20 AM
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I put him on an overpair here which beats your tens so it's an easy fold here to me. With all these folks in the pot I have a hard time seeing you end up taking this one down.

If it where just down to you two guys, I would recommend a raise here and if he calls and still bets on the river it's a fold.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:26 AM
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Check raise the flop? Who's going to bet that flop, a 68?

Betting the flop with the best hand is right.

Him betting into 4 callers on the turn is the hint-and-1/2 for your ass that he has a larger pair most of the time. Hes not capping 99 preflop out of position.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: TT in a giant pot

why would you raise headsup if you put your opponent on a better hand? so that you could fold for one more bet as opposed to showing down?
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