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Old 10-25-2005, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: pocket jacks

I like going for an overcall here.
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Old 10-25-2005, 03:58 PM
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I'm not sure what the problem is - are you afraid the villain (note spelling [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) has QJ? I'd say it's more likely he's spiked top pair, two-pair or maybe an open-ended draw. The river is a great card for you, obviously. I'd bet out with my straight, but with the way you played it I'd consider calling to get the villain's overcall (you're splitting with MP2 a lot of the time here I think).

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Of course I am afraid...
There's a bad part of my brain that keeps saying "think of all the money you save, when you LOSE!!!" and "he could have Q,J for christ sakes". I'm finding it hard to raise on the turn when there is a >50% chance I am behind. It's a leak that will have to be repaired [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-25-2005, 04:32 PM
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I'm finding it hard to raise on the turn when there is a >50% chance I am behind. It's a leak that will have to be repaired [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Think about it like this - there are only 2 J left in the deck, and 3 T . . . this makes QJ a lot less likely than any T, even 2pair Ts. I'm just not sure that you're really behind 50% of the time on the turn - and of those times you are behind, your redraws are excellent against 2p and ass-end straights . . . and you're certainly not behind QJ for the raw balls 50+% of the time.

I would bet out the river; as the action progressed, I'd probably raise and call coming back.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:14 PM
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I would raise and call a reraise. The hand that you are worried about is JQ. Your holding of JJ makes that an unlikely hand to be up against. Just in case, I would flat call if reraised.
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Old 10-26-2005, 12:33 PM
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First two streets look great.

I think we need to three-bet the turn here. We are open-ended, may very well have the best hand, and have even more outs against any two pair hand. Our equity here on average is going to be way over 25%, which is what we need if the pot remains four-handed.

If we three-bet and don't get capped, we're leading the river, obviously.

Even here, I think a river lead works nicely. Villain may very likely check here because the four-straight came on board. Since his hand is likely NOT to be a straight (unless he has precisely JT or the nuts QJ), you're not getting raised all that often from the player next to you. But you want to make it tough for him to fold. So you bet to capture his bet. If it gets raised behind you, there's not need to take it to three-bets, but betting helps to assure that at least one bet goes in, and avoids tough spots where checking causes the action to get bet and raised behind you and either others with weak hands get shut out before putting bets in or you have to decide how willing your are to put in two bets hoping for no better than a chop.

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equity,equity,equity... a concept with which I have not fully integrated with, on my playing of poker. My checking on the river may have been caused by my not three betting the turn which I had a feeling might have been an error. Therefore to make up for it I would brilliantly check raise villain on the river(without fully considering the likelyhood of villain not betting, with 4 to a open end straight on board) [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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