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Old 11-28-2005, 03:44 PM
Vavavoom Vavavoom is offline
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Default Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

Background...

I have been at table for 6 hands and won 3 of them...I must look like a complete laggy-donk running hot...Villain is multi-tabling 13/4 over 34 hands...Previous hand was $375 pot which I won with Qs9s with a turned flush vs turned set which didn't fill...

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Hero ($375.90)
BB ($184.35)
Villain ($113)
MP1 ($182.35)
MP2 ($71.70)
CO ($230.10)
Button ($236)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Villain calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $4, Villain calls $4.

Flop: ($15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: ($15) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6, Villain calls $6.

River: ($33) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero bets ?
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Old 11-28-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

lead the river for 1/2 or 2/3 pot.

push to a raise.

otherwise i like the line - i feel with this hand OOP you've got to give them a card or two to catch up.
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Old 11-28-2005, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

With this backgrond I would bet this flop, maybe even overbet it. Failing to do that, I would bet this turn... I really try to not slowplay more than to the turn because the pot is usually way too small on the river otherwise.
Failing to do that, I c/r this turn hoping he'll have something.
As played I bet 20-25 hoping I'll get something out of the hand, might try a larger bet because of your image but that's a feel thing
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Old 11-28-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

I think I like a turn lead here for 1/2 the pot.

Edit: If called, c/r river, but maybe that is too fancy.
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

Too bad no high cards fell on turn or river. The duece helped no one here, most of all you...I guess I bet 1/2 pot and hope for some callers.
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

Checking the flop in most cases is okay. If you look like a LAG luckbox, then I think you get more from the rocks by betting $6 or so here. As played, lead the turn. Sure you might get villain to bluff a small amount by checking, but you have to risk winning a small pot to build a large one.

Also, if you always slow play your monsters you will never get paid with them.

I always get a kick when I see this type of hand generate a $10 pot (which only gets to $10 on the river because of a 'value' bet) and hero has 99 and villain has 69 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

i am puking while reading this. the whole point of a LAG donkey image is u get excessive action on your big hands. bet the flop. bet the turn, call a turn raise. get it all in on the river. wow. i cannot beleive u were not shoveling money into the pot at some point. any 6 goes broke here. any good nine and any overpair is paying through the nose to get a showdown against ur nuts. you should never be allowed to flop a boat again. just yesterday i have 66 on a 699 flop and get a lot of action from donk who doesnt believe me. long story short, i bet i raise, he calls, we get it all in on a J river and his JJ is good, after i get half his stack in on turn b/c he thinks i am FOS.
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

I'm going to agree w/ savman. If you don't beat the flop and begin a betting line someone is going to put you on a 6 whether they beat it or not, right?

I lead like I always do w/ flopped sets, flushes or boats. Its nice that this hand isn't heads-up, extra incentive to see you can build a pot.
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

As an alternative, overbet this - like 50-60ish

You have an image for this play

Maybe they think you think ace high is good here?

With the wimpy betting so far in this hand, the overbet looks like a bluff.

If they fold, you still have the laggy image without showing the monster - benefits your next monster.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a Full House.....Missed betting opportunities ?

A huge overbet only really allows a 6, or overpair to proceed, imo.
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