Another KK - is it good?

[mongoose51]

Villian same as my other KK post 21/7/5 for a 100 hands. Just call the re-raise pf , want to see flop with no A on it. On turn the way the hand is played it looks like I am up against AA, QQ, KK , JJ , but I have played passively, so maybe other hands are possible. Should I have raised on the flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($68.24)
BB ($100)
UTG ($85.82)
MP1 ($237.47)
MP2 ($98)
CO ($100)
Hero ($99.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50. CO posts a blind of $1.
[color=#666666]3 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $5</font>, SB (poster) calls $4.50, [color=#CC3333]BB raises to $19</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $15, SB folds.

Flop: ($46) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]BB bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22.

Turn: ($90) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
BB calls $58 (All-In), Hero calls ???

I think your beat by QQ or AA here. I don't see a lot of re raises with AA anymore, especially when there is only one person in the pot. So my revision is, I think the only thing beating you here is QQ, but there is a good shot he has it. If you can take him off AA, your beating 2 hands (10 10, JJ) and losing to one (KK).

Don't discount the possibility he is on AQ - re-raise PF to protect his Blind with a good hand... then the 1/2 pot bet to 'see' where he was. Your call rather than a re-raise could give him the information that you have like KQ or similar - probably suited - hence he feels he is in front and want s to drive you out before the river - and is not giving you draw odds...
Just a thought...
Could just as easily have AA or QQ - but that 1/2 pot bet mitigates against either .. especiallly QQ

I'm never folding to this flop bet. If you are the reraiser preflop you are pretty much making a continuation bet 90% of the time. I have a tough time calling this turn push though. You're probably looking at AA or QQ most of the time here. Not saying I would fold, but I would feel sick about calling.

[mongoose51]

I can see that since I didn't re-raise pf, that he would strongly suspect that I don't have AA or KK, but since I called his re-raise he would probably know that I wasn't just on a steal. I didn't re-raise pf because I wanted to see that an A didn't flop. I really thought that he was raising pf w/big pair or AK, much more so than AQ.

If I don't re-raise pf, then maybe I should have raised him on the flop when an A didn't come.

WIth his call of your preflop and his big lead post flop, I tend to think he either has AA or QQ. Either way you are in trouble. I lay it down.

[mongoose51]

He reraised me pf. On the flop I thought I might still be good. On the turn I felt I was up against AA or QQ when he went all in , at best I could hope for KK. I don't see him going all in on the turn with a hand I can beat.

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He reraised me pf. On the flop I thought I might still be good. On the turn I felt I was up against AA or QQ when he went all in , at best I could hope for KK. I don't see him going all in on the turn with a hand I can beat.

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I dont either. He's betting a big stack and you only have a pair of kings. I hate dumping over pairs... but sometimes you can tell you are beat.

[Godfather80]

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WIth his call of your preflop and his big lead post flop, I tend to think he either has AA or QQ. Either way you are in trouble. I lay it down.

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Big lead postflop? Villain bet $22 into a pot of $46. There are reasons to lay this down on the turn, but Villain's "big" flop bet isn't one of them.

Yeah - I didnt really notice the total size of the pot. 1/2 pot isnt really "big" huh?