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Old 09-05-2005, 12:48 AM
Baseballer02 Baseballer02 is offline
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Default Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

Still pretty new to 6-max(2100 hands in PT) and I'm fairly often finding myself in situations where I'm unsure of what move to make.

Hand 1: Villain here is 58/2/3.77. He'll bet almost randomly with any two cards. I had already caught him in a bluff earlier when I held a pair of aces and jacks paired on the turn. Was this a good time to call down hoping to catch another bluff?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7 BB

Hand 2: My problem here is that I'm not sure if betting the river here would be a value bet. The pot is a decent size and it's heads up, but there's quite a bit out there that can beat me. Villain here is 50/8.2/0.53.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Hand 3: Not sure about my turn play here. Should I have just gone ahead and bet out? I was somewhat worried about two pair being held by one of my opponents. No reads.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (13 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 16 BB

Hand 4: I was trying my damn hardest to get UTG out of the hand here, but just couldn't get him out. Is the river check/call correct or should I have bet out? No reads here.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button folds.

River: (11.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

Ehhh, forgot this is too low of a limit for an answer here. Sorry for the waste of time guys. Crossposted to ML.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

Hand 1: Yes, I'd bet the flop though

Hand 2: Yeah I'd just check the river, as ultra passive as the guy is. He'd have to have exactly a 5... I don't think it's worth it.

Hand 3: well played

Hand 4: I doubt a UTG limper folds for 2 more at 1/2. I'd just call preflop. Check/fold the flop, that's an ugly one.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

no, this forum covers all the 6 max limits. your post belongs here.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

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no, this forum covers all the 6 max limits. your post belongs here.

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that's cool. I've just always read that the folks around here generally disregard the posts from lower limit games, which is I always just lurk rather than post.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

Welcome. 1/2 6max is the easiest 3BB/100 hands you'll ever make. Just keep your wits about you. The best thing I ever got told about SH is to always customise your lines towards getting a showdown. If theres two lines, one involving a showdown, and the other not, take the former.

Hand 1: I fold this. Pot is small, we have 2 very tainted outs, any pocket pair is beating us. Hell, any two can still draw on us quite easily. Even if he bluffs sometimes, he still has it other times.

Hand 2: I dont mind how you played it, except I might bet/fold the turn and take the free showdown on the river. If you check and then he bets the river, its a really hard call (especially an overcard). Use your folding equity you probably have.

Hand 3: I dont mind the check-raise trapping the SB. wp

Hand 4: Check-raise looks good on the flop, I bet/fold this river though. Normally this is a fold for me, but the pot is large, so lets fight for it.


You look like you're doing ok, keep it up.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

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Hand 4: I doubt a UTG limper folds for 2 more at 1/2. I'd just call preflop. Check/fold the flop, that's an ugly one.

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Perhaps the check/raise was god awful, but getting over 12:1, shouldn't I call on the flop an reevaluate my hand on the turn? Button could easily be making a continuation bet with ATs, AJ, or AK.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

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no, this forum covers all the 6 max limits. your post belongs here.

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that's cool. I've just always read that the folks around here generally disregard the posts from lower limit games, which is I always just lurk rather than post.

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Post the 'family pot' 1/2 in micro, because it plays more like .50/1. Post your 3-way/heads up hands in here. That way, you'll get the best advice without cluttering the board.
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Old 09-05-2005, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

As far as hand 1 goes, here is why I felt good about calling down.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 5h Ah (two pair, aces and jacks).
SB has 3d 8h (two pair, jacks and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. </font>
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Old 09-05-2005, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Still relatively new to 6-max. A few hands here. Sorta long post.

there's a 10 on the flop. The only hands you're really ahead of are AJ and AK, and even those still have two more cards to improve. And if he doesn't have either of those hands, well then you're drawing to 2 outs. You're either way behind, or barely ahead, so as big as the pot is I think you're best just letting it go. If you check/call the flop, what do you do when he bets again on the turn? He's probably always betting the turn again, so I think the flop call is just wasting a SB.
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