Don't think I can beat 1/2.

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I am realy amazed by how few hands people on these boards play.

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Sorry doc. I have a real job. And a life.
I like them both.*

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*And this is the microlimits.

[grjr]

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You need to get yourself a copy of Small Stakes Hold 'Em by Ed Miller. If you devote yourself to that book and this site, in a month or so, most of your very obvious leaks should be plugged up.

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I have a very dog eared copy. It's one thing to read and reread another to know how to apply. It will come with time, I imagine, if I don't frustrate myself out of playing.

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I'm going to be sacriligious here for a second and recommend adding another book to your library. It's "Middle Limit Holdem Poker" by Bob Ciaffone.

When you first start reading it you will think "What a bunch of weaksauce this is". But after a while you will realize that it will help balance out all the testosterone based posts here. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

It's helped me to understand that "pedal to the floor" aggression is great when you're catching cards but it sure bites when people are sucking out on you. If your tilt problem is as bad as mine then this might give you another perspective.

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The strategies espoused on these forums are very often not aggressive enough.

And I'm not just saying this because I'm me.

[Angrymoog]

While I think it's very honest and proves that you are critiquing your ability to play, you can't decide whether you're playing good poker or bad poker over 8k hands.

This is poker, and the irony as stated in SSH is that your results in the short run rarely reflect the correctness of your play. \

I think it's important to try and find leaks in your game, but if you can't really put your finger on exactly what youre doing wrong, then maybe you ARENT doing as much wrong as you think? You can't cause players not to hit two outters on you, all you can do is make the correct decision.

I think if you dont have a definite reason for why you think youre playing bad, you should stick to your guns, continue to play correctly, and the results will work themselves out.

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The strategies espoused on these forums are very often not aggressive enough.

And I'm not just saying this because I'm me.

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It's tough to generalize, but IMO it's too aggressive on average.
It's ok to assume that most Party .5/1 players are bad, but for some reason a lot of posters assume the average Party .5/1 player is a maniac instead of a passive nut-pedaling calling station, which most of them are.

I mean - I read posts almost daily where people want to "raise for a free card" with overcards OOP in a 6-way pot - it's ridiculous sometimes.

[SamLuc]

I'm a relative beginner but you should probably think about game selection in addition to what the others have mentioned. I not only look for the softest games I can find but there are certain types of games I know I don't play well against. If there are 3 or more lag maniacs at the table I generally don't do very well so I will look for another table. Some time I will learn how to beat those games but why bother now when I can usually find an easier game.

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The strategies espoused on these forums are very often not aggressive enough.

And I'm not just saying this because I'm me.

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It's tough to generalize, but IMO it's too aggressive on average.
It's ok to assume that most Party .5/1 players are bad, but for some reason a lot of posters assume the average Party .5/1 player is a maniac instead of a passive nut-pedaling calling station, which most of them are.

I mean - I read posts almost daily where people want to "raise for a free card" with overcards OOP in a 6-way pot - it's ridiculous sometimes.

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Yes, that is exactly one of the situations I was thinking of. I was about to post a hand example showing this but you have saved me the trouble. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[HentaiGaijin]

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No, this is the wrong impression of me. I make a nice salary and the money I initially started playing with has been doubled. I'm playing at a limit I feel financially comfortable with and it won't bother me if I bust out, although I'd drop down before that happened. It's not the money, its the sense of progress and success (or lack thereof).

I don't play other casino games. I don't make prop bets. I play poker because I believe it is fundamentally a game of skill. Skills I can learn. When I hit a losing streak, I feel like I'm failing at something I should be doing better at.

8000 hands of 1/2 and 10000 hands of .5/1 might not seem like much, but it's a lot for me. I have a full time job and do a lot of other things besides poker (I'm a hardcore computer gamer and I have a girlfriend to manage). I'm upping the number of hands I play a week, but I have no interest in going pro or becoming a poker god.

I apologize for whining on the boards. I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong and keep working at it. As long as I move down when I feel my bankroll is threatened by the stakes, I can probably keep playing poker for a long time to come. But I'd like to get to a point where I feel I'm doing well due to my knowledge and ability and not to the whims of luck.

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This is exactly what I was referring to in my post above if you didnt read it. Your results in the short term do not neccessarily reflect the correctness of your play. You may be playing very well and there's nothing for you to "fix."

There's a section towards the beginning of SSH that talks about the normal method of learning we use. IE trial and error. That simply doesnt work with poker, where your actual results can vary wildly from your intended results.

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No, this is the wrong impression of me. I make a nice salary and the money I initially started playing with has been doubled. I'm playing at a limit I feel financially comfortable with and it won't bother me if I bust out, although I'd drop down before that happened. It's not the money, its the sense of progress and success (or lack thereof).

I don't play other casino games. I don't make prop bets. I play poker because I believe it is fundamentally a game of skill. Skills I can learn. When I hit a losing streak, I feel like I'm failing at something I should be doing better at.

8000 hands of 1/2 and 10000 hands of .5/1 might not seem like much, but it's a lot for me. I have a full time job and do a lot of other things besides poker (I'm a hardcore computer gamer and I have a girlfriend to manage). I'm upping the number of hands I play a week, but I have no interest in going pro or becoming a poker god.

I apologize for whining on the boards. I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong and keep working at it. As long as I move down when I feel my bankroll is threatened by the stakes, I can probably keep playing poker for a long time to come. But I'd like to get to a point where I feel I'm doing well due to my knowledge and ability and not to the whims of luck.

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This is my shot at 1/2 so far. I don't think you are whining exactly. You feel frustrated and are looking to improve your game. Best reason to post IMHO.

Notice anything familiar about this graph? You are not alone. Changing limits is a big change. Especially when you are fully immersed in .5/1 strategy. I was crushing .5/1 for 4bb/100. I dropped back to get some ego boost and found that 1/2 had messed up my .5/1 game.

This is pretty common when you are training. If this was golf, you might go to work on your follow through, and your shoulders would get all out of whack. Then you have to come back and fix that. Same thing in poker. Isolate one leak at a time, fix it. Fix the problems fixing the leak gave you. Move on.

My plan, and yours should be the same I think. Is to power through to 10K hands, or drop limits when I lose 1/2 my BR. Then re-evaluate your game.



Currently I need to tame my overagression. I really struggled getting to where I even could play agressive. Now I am overboard and I need to dial it back a little. Which means folding more, because my VP$IP is skirting the top of the sanity range.

GL bro.

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