best play?

limon · #1 07-21-2005, 07:11 PM

3 handed no chop.

Payouts; 1st - $16K, 2nd - $8K, 3rd - $4K.

Button (8kchips) makes it $5,000 to go, totally pot-committing himself. Blinds are $600-1200 with a $200 ante. In the big blind... our buddy looks
down at two black nines and 27k chips, bb has 35k chips... what do you do?

MLG · #2 07-21-2005, 07:16 PM

Its a shove. You want to try and bust the shorty but you don't want the big stack to have a chance at his chips. Its gonna be a lot harder to win if the big stack wins a ton of chips by tagging along this hand. Also if the shorty survives the push you hate him tripling up, but if he doubles you still have him slightly covered. I should do math on this, but I won't. Also, try the STT for some math, they're real good at the cash EV, chip EV stuff.

limon · #3 07-21-2005, 07:20 PM

this was my opinion...but the result was weird

A_PLUS · #4 07-21-2005, 07:28 PM

This is the standard SNG payout, so using Eastbay's tool (check his profile, it is very cool).
I dont feel right using it publicly without a plug

It actually looks closer than I thought depending on the Villan's range. But unless he is the tightest player in the world, it is a push.

limon · #5 07-21-2005, 07:49 PM

my buddy moved in w/ his 99 then the bb moved in over the top of him w/qq...the button then folded 33 face up keeping his last 3k and the bb busted my buddy out in 3rd.

MLG · #6 07-21-2005, 07:50 PM

Wow, that completely sucks. Nothing you can really do though.

limon · #7 07-21-2005, 07:56 PM

so is the best answer something more like final jeopardy where you keep a little more money than the short stack has left so that he WILL call knowing he cant possibly lock up 2nd?

MLG · #8 07-21-2005, 08:02 PM

That's distinctly possible. That's some quality outside the box thinking though. Of course there's at least some possibility that the little stack folds anyway, thinking you will call, which I guess you have to. But then, you're really no worse off than you were before.

A_PLUS · #9 07-21-2005, 08:10 PM

nah, once you commit that many chips, you are losing money if you fold for the rest of them.

limon · #10 07-21-2005, 08:13 PM

no one said you would fold, just put that idea in the mind of the shortstack whos trying to get a free ride up the ladder. you make a big jump by doing anything to lock up his call here.