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Old 12-22-2005, 11:39 AM
johnnybeef johnnybeef is offline
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Default Re: 88 in EP. (Stars $20 Deepstack) Oh, and i\'m a calling station.

pf: i usually minraise this considering you are still pretty deep, and are playing this for set instead of showdown value.

flop: this is a beautiful dry flop for your hand. Go ahead and keep on playing this like AA.


turn: so far you have played your hand exactly like you have 88. I'm guessing that he really isn't driving the bus here with ace high (although there is a chance), 66, or a draw. More than likely he has a jack or maybe TT. I fold this one.

river: how often do you think that hes bluffing? he may have had something wierd like 45c or something, but more than likely he is strong (or at least stronger than you) as such you are getting a good price, and are pretty much committed.
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Old 12-22-2005, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: 88 in EP. (Stars $20 Deepstack) Oh, and i\'m a calling station.

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pf: i usually minraise this considering you are still pretty deep, and are playing this for set instead of showdown value.

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If this is the case, why would you min-raise? If you're playing for set value, you want as many people in there as possible, and though it seems ridiculous, some people will fold a hand for a min raise that they would have called if it was for just a limp.
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Old 12-22-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: 88 in EP. (Stars $20 Deepstack) Oh, and i\'m a calling station.

well i just dont know about all this.

i think villian played this hand just like 66-TT, Jx would. barring a specific read, i think my default line here is to check/fold or bet/fold the turn. i guess i just dont see villian having 66-88 enough here to make calling down profitable.

also, i think i normally CB this flop. there really aren't THAT many people in the hand with you ... and this is a totally innocent flop. barring a CB, on this board, I would do a check-call flop-bet turn-shutdown river line. its kind of predictable, but i mean its a stars $20 tourney, fancy play probably isnt all that necessary.

this is a really disorganized post. i need to work on that.
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