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Old 08-29-2005, 08:25 AM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Hero ($1950)
BB ($2921.50)
UTG ($7288.80)
MP1 ($1577.50)
MP2 ($2295)
CO ($2395)
Button ($1970)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $20, MP2 calls $20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $56</font>, BB calls $46, MP1 calls $46, MP2 calls $46.

Flop: ($264) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $250</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $250.

Turn: ($764) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks.

Preflop was silly, i'd normally make it more here but moving on.

Turn bet or check? If so how much?

If checked, say he auto bets the pot using the bet pot party button?

If checked, he bets $400?

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Old 08-29-2005, 08:30 AM
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I think check if he's autobetting; you're ahead of his range, as a Q is unlikely to have helped him, and you figure to be ahead on the flop. I wouldn't raise because you could be recked. I'd then lead the river unless a real scare card like Ac fell.
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Old 08-29-2005, 08:47 AM
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If checked, say he auto bets the pot using the bet pot party button?

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id fold so fast.
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If checked, he bets $400?



[/ QUOTE ]call, then check river.
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Old 08-29-2005, 09:18 AM
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Bah, this is sooo player-dependent, and no read... I guess I am gonna have to answer for everyone. Ehh, good practice, i guess.

Tightie: probably puts you on an overpair (you did lead into 3 callers), he is folding 77-TT. Only has set/clubs/55. He'll probably check behind with his draws here, so I am check-folding.

Alternately, you could lead for 600ish and be done with it. He won't have the odds to call with clubs/55, if he puts $ in he has you. This line is better if you think he could have 77-TT as well, as he might bet those if you check.

Loose/Tricky: If he is capable of semibluffraising the turn, or calling and bluffing all-in on the river, I'm not going to lead here. Trade free cards for a chance at pot control. If he leads small, I probably call and play poker on the river. If he leads big, I dunno, so I am gonna say something trite like "go with your read" and leave it at that. If he pots it you are obviously making a commitment decision here.
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Old 08-29-2005, 05:52 PM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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Do my threads suck? I never known which hands to post, this one hit me as surprising because i'd have differently action to different bet sizes.
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:00 PM
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Do my threads suck?

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no, keep posting, please.

however, sometimes you do post things that are real metagame and player dependant and those things you post which aren't really appeal to a very small swath of 2+2ers who acn actually understand what you're asking and who can process at a high enough level to give you an answer worth typing.

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ps- in general i bet the turn cos of the board. namely there are a lot of hands with good pot equity that will fold and a few second best hands that will make a thin valuecall and see a cheap showdown against your two barrel overs bluff. basically you have o reason to think you're behind and a lot of hands paying you off.

if you check and he autobets its a muck right quick. if you check and he bets 400 call and play poker on the river.
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:00 PM
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I don't think you should bet the flop. The turn has more cards you hate than you like and you are OOP.
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:12 PM
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I don't think you should bet the flop. The turn has more cards you hate than you like and you are OOP.

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I think the risk of giving free cards to hands that would not calll a bet, even a small one, well overweights this.
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:14 PM
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I don't think you should bet the flop. The turn has more cards you hate than you like and you are OOP.

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I disagree entirely. If hero had AA or KK, fine, but you don't want overcards to see a free card with JJ.

I would go ahead and put the $400 in myself on that turn, gambler. Against 90% of opponents you can fold to a raise.
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Old 08-29-2005, 08:54 PM
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I don't think you should bet the flop. The turn has more cards you hate than you like and you are OOP.

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I was thinking along the same lines...
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